The Founder
August 6th, 2017 at 12:59:29 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
I think it is more from "Behind the Arches," which is not Kroc's book. His autobiography is "Grinding it Out," which I have yet to read. The President is a fink. |
August 6th, 2017 at 2:55:39 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | Frankly, I found the movie depressing. A washed up salesman with a wife that's never happy with anything. Two poor innocent hayseeds (they were not 'innocent') who got screwed over by a corporate giant. There was nothing uplifting here. It ticked me off a little when Croc was confused and baffled that they gave him his food in a bag. Had he never seen take out before? They had been giving take out food in paper bags since 1900, it was nothing new. We stopped at chicken joints in the mid 50's when on vacation and the food always came in a bag. It ticked me off because they tried to make it look like MdD's invented the concept. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 7th, 2017 at 8:13:25 AM permalink | |
Mosca Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 22 Posts: 730 | I loved this movie. I saw Kroc as a hero, a guy who had huge dreams that were constantly being stymied by people who didn't have any vision. Mrs Mosca didn't understand that. I guess you see what you want to see. Lets not forget that after Ray died, Joan gave away most of his fortune, as AIDS hospices, victims' funds, alcoholism treatment centers, etc. Her donation of $2B to the Salvation Army set up dozens of rec centers in poor neighborhoods. |
August 7th, 2017 at 9:16:46 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I'm not sure I see your point. There was that bathroom scene where he said he didn't just copy the idea because he liked the name "McDonalds." It couldn't have been vengeance over the Chicago deal because I assume that happened later in the story. I took him at his word that he just liked the name McDonalds. I also think that at that point Kroc was not the scumbag he turned out to be and genuinely liked the McDonalds brothers.
I find it kind of dubious too that with the McDonald's lawyer right there he didn't protest the handshake part of the deal. I think any lawyer would have said "no way" to that. Do agree that they were probably happy to get 1.35M each. A lot of money back than. When I sold my sites it was certainly bittersweet to give up my baby but the price made that pill pretty easy to swallow. In retrospect, no regrets at all. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
August 7th, 2017 at 11:09:47 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
He hated them by that point. That is why he opened the store down the street from The Big M and ran them out of business. In reality, the brothers called him to sell, not like it was in the movie. They hid that the San Bernadino store was not part of the deal until late in the process. It was the last straw. Kroc made many changes large and small to improve the system, the brothers never signed off on any of them. They invented the Spee D Service system, Kroc invented the McDonald's system. The later is what made McDonald's. The President is a fink. |
August 7th, 2017 at 11:12:04 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I'm only saying he liked them at first, before they ever did business together, other than selling them blenders. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
August 7th, 2017 at 11:22:46 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Like I said, they gave a lame reason. Are we supposed to believe Croc tied himself to the Doofus Bros because of their name? There are a hundred names as good or better. Their name wasn't known outside the area where they lived, it meant nothing to anybody. He could have called it McDougals or Clanahans, it would have been just as successful. You went there for a 15 cent burgers and fries in under a minute, not because of the name. And yes, in 1961 $1.35 million was a huge amount of money. That's $11.5 million in today's money. The Bros were not spring chickens, the older one was 60, the other in his mid 50's. They were ecstatic at such a windfall at the end of their careers. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 7th, 2017 at 11:58:22 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
Much better than some of Henry Ford's partners who were basically kicked out without a cent. I've heard Steve Jobs had little concern for partners too. Better have a contract, and better read it. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 7th, 2017 at 12:04:50 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
The Beverly Hillbillies came on in 1962. They initially had $10 million, which would be a joke today. It was enough to buy a huge mansion and live like kings. So imagine how the Bros felt with $1.35 mil each. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 7th, 2017 at 12:34:02 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
If you have any 10 million jokes you can send them this way. Anyway, in the first episode, Granny asks Jeb how much he got for their swamp land useless for fishing because of oil. He says 70. She thinks 70 dollars and thinks he was ripped of, but it's million dollars. They still don't understand and think million is a word for some kind of fake money. Cousin Minnie Pearl straightens them out later though. I think their house was 10 mil though. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |