Urbanization of North America
February 4th, 2017 at 12:25:59 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | In 1900 the urban population of Mexico was 1.4 million out of 13.6 million. The urban population of USA was 30.2 million out of 76.2 million. USA had 77 cities over 50K people and Mexico had 4 such cities (Mexico City, Guadalajara, Monterey and San Louis Potosi). Texas had only 1 city over 50,000 people. Nine USA cities were over 1/3 million in 1900 1 New York city, NY ................ 3,437,202 2 Chicago city, IL................... 1,698,575 3 Philadelphia city, PA.............. 1,293,697 4 St. Louis city, MO................. 575,238 5 Boston city, MA.................... 560,892 6 Baltimore city, MD................. 508,957 7 Cleveland city, OH................. 381,768 8 Buffalo city, NY................... 352,387 9 San Francisco city, CA............. 342,782 71 San Antonio city, TX............... 53,321 In the urbanization of North America since 1900 is it really that surprising that many of the new cities in the Southwest would attract large Mexican immigratiion populations in the states that were once part of Mexico? |
February 4th, 2017 at 1:50:21 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | It is not surprizing at all. The Canadian USA border was effectively closed by the depression until 1939 and the 'thumbs up for Canada' program for young men of military age, but otherwise its been very porous. The Mexican USA border has always been porous and you can look up that "I am not a Mexican" post to see that even Spanish speaking people here in the USA looked down on 'wetbacks'. Large mechanized farms that were in name only 'family farms' received water allotements and had little need for aught but seasonal labor. In 1900 crops were generally harvested by Portugese, Germans and Irishmen who rode the rails following the harvests. Urban poor with a strong family structure are better off than rural poor but without that structure its better to be rural poor. In the USA some people refer to BoWash as the 'city of Boston to Washington'... one big mess of urbanisation with conflicting patchworks of administration. "Edge Cities" such as Fullerton, CA play leading roles in California's urban sprawl. Its hippies who flocked back to the land since they had no money. Its the suburbs that made others rich. Now urban communes are booming again and suburban CBDs are getting gentrified by retirees buying up large commercial buildings and turning them into homes or mixed use developments. |
February 4th, 2017 at 2:12:54 PM permalink | |
buzzardknot Member since: Mar 16, 2015 Threads: 7 Posts: 497 | Wanna guess the 3 biggest cities in the top 100, that have the highest percentage of elderly citizens. #1 is Miami Feel free to guess 2 & 3. |
February 4th, 2017 at 2:47:26 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
Pittsburgh, PA & Cleveland, OH? The President is a fink. |
February 4th, 2017 at 4:57:11 PM permalink | |
stinkingliberal Member since: Nov 9, 2016 Threads: 17 Posts: 731 |
I assume that the list is number of persons of Mexican ancestry? If so, I would expect Phoenix to be on the list. Also San Diego. Though that would depend on whether we're talking metro area or just the city itself. |
February 4th, 2017 at 6:15:58 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Those are the cities elderly people want to escape from, not move to. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 4th, 2017 at 6:21:08 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I was showing the population of the 9 cities that were over 1/3 million in 1900. All cities in 2010 that have a population over 1 million. 1 New York city, NY 8,175,133 2 Los Angeles city, CA 3,792,621 3 Chicago city, IL 2,695,598 4 Houston city, TX 2,099,451 5 Philadelphia city, PA 1,526,006 6 Phoenix city, AZ 1,445,632 7 San Antonio city, TX 1,327,407 8 San Diego city, CA 1,307,402 9 Dallas city, TX 1,197,816 Los Angeles City Hispanic or Latino, percent, April 1, 2010 (b) 48.5% White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, April 1, 2010 28.7% Asian alone, percent, April 1, 2010 (a) 11.3% Black or African American alone, percent, April 1, 2010 (a) 9.6% Two or More Races, percent, April 1, 2010 4.6% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, April 1, 2010 (a) 0.1% American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, April 1, 2010 (a) 0.7% |
February 4th, 2017 at 6:27:56 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
In Downton Abby, one of the daughters jokes that she was moving to Detroit to find a millionaire husband. It was 1912. That was no joke then, more millionaires were in Detroit and Cleveland than in NYC. Rockefeller lived in Cleveland for years before moving to NYC. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 4th, 2017 at 7:58:49 PM permalink | |
buzzardknot Member since: Mar 16, 2015 Threads: 7 Posts: 497 |
Good guess, close Philadelphia and Baltimore Shocked than Baltimore population was 500K in 1900 and now 560K. Guess only the young got to escape. |
February 4th, 2017 at 8:22:30 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
Years ago, Pittsburgh Metro was the highest senior percent outside FL and IIRC outside Miami-Dade (then just Dade) county. Although younger people are finally starting to settle here. Cost of living is manageable and when people from say NY Metro hear the cost of housing here they think it is a misprint. The President is a fink. |