Cashlessness and the Mark of the Beast

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February 20th, 2017 at 12:52:39 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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According to Bank for International Settlements the last year Sweden had more cash on a per capita basis than USA was in 1992, the Euro Area in 2002, Australia in 2006, Canada in 2008, United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia in 2012, and Korea in 2013.

Further reduction in cash in circulation in Sweden, means that their cash in circulation on a per capita basis may drop lower than that of Russia, Mexico and even Turkey. Many Swedes believe that the elimination of cash is simply more efficient and increases personal safety, especially considering they have a population of only 10 million and are part of the European Union, but not a part of the European Monetary Union.

For most Swedes larger questions of monetary policy outside of safety and efficiency are secondary. A very vocal minority would like to see cash eliminated completely in the country. Of course, if stores begin eliminating cash registers, then cash may still be legal, but it won't be much use.

Protestant Christians have talked about the end of cash for a long time as critical component leading to Armageddon.
Quote: End Times Truth
Sweden Moves to Cashless Society: The Bible predicts that at the end a world empire will arise that will require a mark in the right hand or forehead, and that no one would be able to buy or sell without it (Rev. 13:16-18). The march toward a cashless society is a key step to instituting the Mark of the Beast and the final system before Christ returns.
https://endtimestruth.com/sweden-edging-toward-cashless-society/


My question is do Catholics believe something similar? It is the same bible, but possibly the interpretation is different.

The endangered banknote with only 3 million in circulation for 10 million people.


The Swedish banknote printed in 1958 worth over US$2000 declared invalid in 1991.
February 20th, 2017 at 1:13:35 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Are the images to scale? Usually the bigger denomination is printed on the bigger piece of paper/parchment.
February 20th, 2017 at 1:16:18 PM permalink
Nareed
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Banknote "paper" is made of cotton and linen. Parchment is made of animal skins, typically sheep skin.
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February 20th, 2017 at 5:25:30 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Ayecarumba
Are the images to scale? Usually the bigger denomination is printed on the bigger piece of paper/parchment.


They are not to scale. The 1958 10,000kr banknote was actually quite large (210 x 121 mm) with an area over 2.5 times the area of US banknotes. As it was a very valuable banknote as the Swedish krona was fixed at 2.4 to the dollar at the time, not very many notes of that denomination would circulate.

Recent Swedish banknotes (100kr and 500kr banknotes valid until 30 June 2017, other denominations invalid)
20 Swedish kronor 120×67 mm
50 Swedish kronor 120×77 mm
100 Swedish kronor 140×72 mm
500 Swedish kronor 150×82 mm
1000 Swedish kronor 160×82 mm

US currency is 156.1 mm by 66.3 mm (6.14 in × 2.61 in) . The new Swedish currency is shorter but similar to US currency in width.
The 2015 Swedish series is now:
20 kronor 120 × 66 mm
50 kronor 126 × 66 mm
100 kronor 133 × 66 mm
200 kronor 140 × 66 mm
500 kronor 147 × 66 mm
1000 kronor 154 × 66 mm

Canadian banknotes are all uniform size: 152.4 x 69.85 mm (6.0 x 2.75 inches) And the polymer notes have the following Issue date
$100: 14 November 2011
$20 : 7 November 2012
$50: 26 March 2012
$5/$10: 7 November 2013
Despite the relatively recent issue dates, a new design with a woman will follow starting in 2018


The 10,000 krónur for Iceland is in circulation, but 12 Icelandic krona equals 1 Swedish krona. They were once equal, but Iceland suffers from hyperinflation.

Iceland actually had the lead over Sweden as the world's most cashless society, but when all the banks in Iceland declared bankruptcy at once in 2008, cash made a huge comeback The 10,000 krónur banknote was first issued October 24, 2013 as the ISK had last half it's value relative to the Euro.
Today 10,000 ISK = USD$90.47
February 20th, 2017 at 9:33:34 PM permalink
rainman
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The day the US government passes legislation requiring a mark is the day they
quit with the deception and just flat tell you you are their slave.

The day you take a mark is the day you knowingly consent to being their slave.
February 21st, 2017 at 4:19:19 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Religion has nothing to do with monetary value. Quote whatever obscure references you want. Remember Brother Chip in Vegas who used to collect from churches all the various casino chips people had dropped in their collection plates? People may pray that the value of their currency increases but it is meaningless.
February 21st, 2017 at 6:00:02 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
Religion has nothing to do with monetary value. Quote whatever obscure references you want.


And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Some scholars believe that the use of the preposition "in" instead of "on" was a way of foretelling microchip technology. Naturally, tattoos which would have been prevalent when Revelations was written.

Of course, the requirement to have authorization before you can buy or sell does not necessarily preclude the use of cash, but most people perceive cashless transactions as easier to monitor.
February 21st, 2017 at 6:48:31 AM permalink
pew
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Cash is King. Long live the King!
February 21st, 2017 at 7:21:24 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Pacomartin
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Some scholars believe that the use of the preposition "in" instead of "on" was a way of foretelling microchip technology. Naturally, tattoos which would have been prevalent when Revelations was written.

Of course, the requirement to have authorization before you can buy or sell does not necessarily preclude the use of cash, but most people perceive cashless transactions as easier to monitor.


It is a good question and I don't think the Church has ever in an official capacity addressed the issue of what the "mark of the beast" is and if it has any connection to the cashless economy.

I have hear my more fundamentalist Christian friends specifically and unequivocally saw that an implanted microchip will be the mark of the beast. I have not heard any of my brother priest go that far. It varies between a deep worry or concern if that happened to a welcoming of such a thing for the ease of buying things and a host of other reasons. My thought would be that I would never have anything implanted in my body, especially if impelled to by the state or for the reason of buying things. I do however see the wisdom of going cashless if we had the technology to do so and having such a system that requires some unique bio security for each person.
February 21st, 2017 at 8:17:52 AM permalink
stinkingliberal
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Quote: FrGamble
I do however see the wisdom of going cashless if we had the technology to do so and having such a system that requires some unique bio security for each person.


From a Biblical standpoint, a cashless economy makes it easier to "render unto Caesar." Remember that scene where Jesus went all apeshit because the merchants in the Temple wouldn't accept his American Express card? Wouldn't have happened with implants. Touch your finger to the screen and go.
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