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Two sorely needed amendments to the US Constitution
| March 11th, 2017 at 9:07:53 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Mexican people are usually fairly guarded about politicians, including their own presidents. The elevation of candidates to near-deity status is much more common in American presidential politics. Only about half of the illegal immigration population in the USA is from Mexico and the majority have now been here for over a decade. Illegals are not a root driver of the economy of either nation. |
| March 11th, 2017 at 3:42:11 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I think it is up to the public to decide how important past political experience is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eisenhower never held office before his presidency, right? Furthermore, some people believe that political experience is actually a negative. Experienced politicians are often viewed as partisans interested only in their own political career. I think that's why the "drain the swamp" promise went over so well. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
| March 11th, 2017 at 5:03:44 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Outside of George Washington such a requirement would have excluded 5 presidents. We've had three presidents with only military experience who had never been elected to office before running for POTUS 1) Dwight D. Eisenhower 2) Ulysses S. Grant 3) Zachary Taylor 4) Herbert Hoover was Secretary of Commerce, but had never been elected to office 5) William Howard Taft was Secretary of War, but had never been elected to office Other presidents had very thin electoral candidate histories which did not include governor or senator before becoming VP or President. George H. W. Bush (2 terms as US representative) Abraham Lincoln (1 term as Illinois representative) Gerald Ford(13 wins as Michigan representative) |
| March 11th, 2017 at 5:14:07 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
Considering all the complaining people do about the results of elections --shouldn't we find it odd that the prerequisites for head of the country are little more than age and citizenship? And the next big rule often is when they get too much experience we require them to leave. Imagine if you staffed every company like that. I know the downside arguments but it still sounds a bit crazy. You could say, well, we know a lot about how they'll do after months or years of campaigning. But actually, that just like if a job interviewee just tried to convince you he was right for the job for up to two years. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| March 12th, 2017 at 6:22:46 AM permalink | |
| RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 |
I just get tired of hearing from some foreigner about how the United States should be run when the positions she believes in involve allowing more illegal entry from and through her country. Those people would not be interested in leaving Mexico if things were great down there and the economy was robust enough to give them decent wages. The government down there even tells them how to leave. No wonder so many people here want a wall, even though that is not the real answer (hint: neither is just let them come in when they want). Immigrants are the backbone of this nation. Illegal immigrants are not. Most of us are descendents of immigrants. However, we are also citizens of a country that has laws governing immigration. Follow the law, get here legally, and contribute to making our society better. The whole "they jobs others won't" is a pile, too. They do jobs others won't for the price they are being paid. Since they are illegal and live in the shadows, they won't complain, will live in poverty, and will be vulnerable to the unfulfilled promises of Democrats and the sweatshop work provided in meat cutting plants by Republicans. In other words. screwed by both parties. |
| March 12th, 2017 at 8:03:11 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I don't find it odd. Those seem like good requirements to me. Especially in the light of the times at the time the Constitution was written. Personally, I would not oppose the requirement to be a "natural born citizen" be lifted. What other requirements are there supposed to be?
I agree with that. The concept is that serving in government is supposed to be doing a service to the country, not to yourself. If you make a permanent job out of it, you quit serving the country and start serving your own re-election. I think the founders should have instituted MORE term limits. In fact, I don't think they mandated any at all. The term limits of the presidency came after FDR was elected four times.
Fair point. One could talk about this all night long. Ultimately, business is more about social Darwimsim and survival of the fittest. It is assumed that competition keeps things working in the private sector or it will die out. However, government has no competition. That is why serving it is supposed to be a charitable thing. You do it for the love of the country, not to make a career out of it. Plus, it is good to get some new blood from time to time. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
| March 12th, 2017 at 8:42:41 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | And even better if some of that new blood does a good job and then goes back to his plow. |
| March 13th, 2017 at 1:00:38 AM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
I view everything in light of the "Dental Floss Example"
My point being: just because we've done it one way seemingly forever, or we think it makes sense doesn't mean anyone really knows for sure or even studied it. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/health/flossing-teeth-cavities.html?_r=0 (btw you should probably still floss) You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| March 13th, 2017 at 7:53:42 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Social Darwinism is a long-discredited idea that misunderstands and misrepresents evolution, competition and Darwin's theory of natural selection. It is also not what business does.
No. But competition keeps some companies or sectors changing. Suppose there's a widget with a potential market of 25 million units per year. That's a lot of money. Now, company A makes it in country X entirely, at a cost of $5 per unit and sells them to retailers at $6. Retailers charge you $7 for it. Now company B in country Y sets up a global supply chain and automation, and manages to produce the widget for $4, it sells to retailers at $5 and retailers charge you $6. This means company B is likely to get a much bigger market share in the widget. This could also imperil company A's capital investment. So what does company A do? It can either accept a much lower market share and lower profits, or it can cut costs and lower its prices, or it can offer an added value along with the widget. If it opts for the second option, it may outsource manufacturing to a third country, say, and undercut company B by producing the widget at $3.95 That's one example of competition. there are others. In services, for example, selling an added value with a higher price is easier than in manufacturing or retail. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| March 13th, 2017 at 11:59:08 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I like the idea that Democracy is inherently inefficient. Dictatorship is extremely efficient. But by it's very nature Democracy will spend a great deal of time undoing it's previous "accomplishments" and waste a lot of time in consensus building. I think one of the more historic interviews was Porfirio Diaz being asked his opinion about Teddy Roosevelt running for a third time for President of the United States. The interview was a significant cause of the Mexican Revolution in which a million people died. Diaz clearly didn't expect this interview to be translated and so widely circulated in Mexico. The interview gave the Mexican people courage to start parties to run against Diaz in the 1910 election. When Diaz ran again and won by a large margin the country exploded into war.
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