Las Vegas & marijuana

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March 14th, 2017 at 2:28:44 PM permalink
reno
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Colorado has legalized recreational marijuana-- but it is illegal to consume it in public. Ditto for Oregon, California, Nevada, Washington, Maine, Massachusetts, and Alaska. This means the only place where you can get high is at home. While bars and other venues are technically private property, marijuana opponents argue that these spaces are "publicly accessible private venues," where marijuana prohibition still applies.

Nevada state Senator Tick Segerblom has decided that this contradiction is ridiculous. He has introduced Bill 236 in the Nevada State Senate, which would allow city and county officials to decide to permit short or long-term pot consumption at casinos, bars, outdoor events and other public places as long as they are not within 1000 feet of a school or community facility.


Quote: Politico
When Nevadans voted in November to legalize recreational marijuana, the law gave the state 12 months to implement regulations for recreational dispensaries. But Nevada officials are planning on beating that deadline by six months, with the first dispensaries opening in Las Vegas on July 1. That rush has less to do with fear of a coming federal crackdown and more to do with money—July 1 is the start of the Nevada fiscal year. Republican Governor Brian Sandoval has already included projected recreational marijuana tax revenue in next year’s budget: A 15 percent wholesale tax and an additional 10 percent requested exclusively for education programs puts projected legal weed tax revenues at $129 million a year, according to Joe Brezny, the spokesman of the successful Yes on 2 campaign in Nevada.

In order to generate that tax revenue, Segerblom sees marijuana-themed “smoke lounges, restaurants, hotels, concert venues, you name it, even horse-drawn carriages and massages.” When we spoke on Saturday, Segerblom was two days away from introducing a Senate bill that would allow cannabis consumption at bars, restaurants, smoke shops and one-off events, laying the groundwork for remaking Vegas into an Amsterdam in the desert.


Is this a good idea?
March 14th, 2017 at 2:36:14 PM permalink
Wizard
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I oppose it for the same reason I oppose tobacco smoke usage in casinos, bars, and any public place. Any place that is open to the public should not kill the non-smoking public with second-hand smoke.

As much as I am a marijuana advocate, I respect the right of non-smokers to not be exposed to my smoke if I'm consuming it in public.

However, I'm always open to an intelligent middle ground, which I think exists on most issues. For example, I would be okay with casino or bar having separate sections for smokers and non-smokers as long as the same amenities were available in both, the non-smoking section used separate ventilation, and the non-smoking section were at least as large as the smoking one.
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March 14th, 2017 at 2:37:29 PM permalink
DRich
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That measure will fail miserably in Nevada. The Nevada Gaming Commission will never allow the use in casinos as long as it is against federal law.
March 14th, 2017 at 2:39:10 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: reno
Is this a good idea?


Yes.

Unless you're a fan of policing for profit. In that case, there's one less means for extorting money from the public.

In the specific case of Vegas, considering the free alcohol Downtown and on the Strip openly consumed in the street, I fail to see any need to curb weed.
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March 14th, 2017 at 3:12:33 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: DRich
That measure will fail miserably in Nevada. The Nevada Gaming Commission will never allow the use in casinos as long as it is against federal law.


Isn't sports gambling against Federal law?
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March 14th, 2017 at 3:25:56 PM permalink
terapined
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I don't see what the big deal is
Everybody thinks, OMG, marijuana smoke everywhere
I consume marijuana products
I rarely smoke these days, just go with concentrate oils using a vapor pen with no typical marijuana smell.
I also like wax and shatter concentrates.
I took the bus from the airport to downtown Vegas last Xmas.
Getting off the bus, a sketchy couple asked for a cigarette. I laughed and said I don't smoke but willing to share some THC vapor
It was Xmas, feeling charitable. They loved getting a hit of vapor thanking me over and over as I let them catch a buzz. Anybody walking by would not smell any marijuana. Probably think I am giving them nicotine vapor
A friend of mine is totally into the marijuana edibles. Loves the candy.
smoke is unhealthy and marijuana users know it.
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March 14th, 2017 at 3:43:43 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: terapined
I don't see what the big deal is


In simple terms:

Booze good! Pot bad!
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March 14th, 2017 at 3:44:11 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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I would be against it but with a provision that you could have a "club" where you could light up. Could be private or could be UT-style where you pay $1 membership, whatever. Think one-step less liberal rules to a cigar-bar. Not sure where I would stand on BYO. On one hand, keeping it in smoke shops or a bar attached to a smoke shop keeps street-stuff out, street-stuff possibly being laced with who knows what. OTOH, if they want to put in a smoke-bar of sorts in Flamingo, why do they need a full license.

But I do not want to see it in general public areas. It has taken a generation to get cigarette smoke confined, this would be a step backwards.

Also on that note, every bar in my town has a grandfather-smoking license. Far less smoking than even the late-1990s, but it amazes me how much you smell of smoke and nicotine when you leave, I don't want to have MJ smell on me.
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March 14th, 2017 at 8:26:31 PM permalink
zippyboy
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There's a big difference between cigs and pot smoke. Cig smokers like to smoke in groups for 10 minutes at a time, filling the air around themselves with harsh smoke. As disgusting as that is to non-smokers in the vicinity, it's hard to believe they suck the concentrated smoke right into their bodies. Nasty! Pot on the other hand, usually takes just a puff or two for the desired effect. And using a vaporizer is much less intrusive to folks around the user. It's vapor after all. Smells like pine needles IF people around can smell it at all. If the casinos had a dedicated room for potheads, they'd be in-and-out I'd think.
March 14th, 2017 at 9:26:32 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: zippyboy
There's a big difference between cigs and pot smoke. .


You should know, being a pot expert.
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