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March 20th, 2017 at 8:15:13 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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WHAT'S TRUE
A prominent theme during the Nazi Party's ascendancy was restoring Germany to its former greatness, and Adolf Hitler used the phrase "make Germany great again" (“machen Deutschland wieder groß” ) upon occasion.

WHAT'S FALSE
"Make Germany Great Again" was not a (campaign) slogan employed by Hitler, and Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler are far from the only politicians who promised to make their countries "great again."

Trivia Question
What were the first two reichs? Obviously, don't google the answer.
March 20th, 2017 at 11:12:00 AM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Trivia Question
What were the first two reichs? Obviously, don't google the answer.

The Roman Empire?
March 20th, 2017 at 1:40:46 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Schlacht im Teutoburger Wald, Hermannsschlacht, or Varusschlacht)—described as Clades Variana (the Varian Disaster) by Roman historians.

The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest took place in the Teutoburg Forest in the year 9, when an alliance of Germanic tribes ambushed and decisively destroyed three Roman legions and their auxiliaries, led by Publius Quinctilius Varus. The anti-Roman alliance was led by Arminius, a Germanic officer of Varus' auxilia who had acquired Roman citizenship and had received a Roman military education, thus enabling him to deceive the Roman commander methodically and anticipate the Roman army's tactical responses.

Contemporary and modern historians have generally regarded Arminius' victory over Varus as "Rome's greatest defeat", one of the most decisive battles recorded in military history, and as "a turning-point in world history". In any event the Romans never conquered present day Germany, and it never became part of the Roman Empire.

March 20th, 2017 at 7:25:07 PM permalink
Nareed
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Trivia Question
What were the first two reichs? Obviously, don't google the answer.


The Holy Roman empire and the German Empire?

or Prussia and the German Empire?

Can't think of any others.

BTW, channeling Linda Richman, the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire.
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March 20th, 2017 at 7:33:04 PM permalink
Evenbob
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The Holy Roman empire and the German Empire?


I know the 2nd reich was Germany in WWI.
The first, I have no idea.
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March 20th, 2017 at 10:35:53 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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The Holy Roman empire and the German Empire?


Holy Roman empire was basically from Charlemagne to Napoleon and German Empire was from 1871 to WWI.

Between these two reichs, the Kingdom of Prussia (established 1701) was the most powerful kingdom.

Hitler moved to Germany in 1913 at age of 24 and was decorated during his service in the German Army in World War I. He joined the German Workers' Party (DAP), the precursor of the NSDAP (Nazis), in 1919 and became leader of the NSDAP in 1921.
March 21st, 2017 at 3:37:37 AM permalink
Aussie
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I saw the title of this thread and thought it was about making porn great again. :S
March 21st, 2017 at 6:22:14 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Google "How the United States Exports Its Inflation" and you find that many economists think that USA uses its financial strength to exploit the world, and has been doing so for decades.

So a campaign based on "making America Strong Again" along with rhetoric that the USA has negotiated deals where they are the loser doesn't play well with much of the world. Adolf Hitler was obsessed with Germany's lack of strength compared to countries like Britain who had an entire empire to make them wealthy.
March 21st, 2017 at 6:34:47 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Google "How the United States Exports Its Inflation" and you find that many economists think that USA uses its financial strength to exploit the world, and has been doing so for decades.


Old news. China sends us cheap junk, China buys Treasuries, in 30 years the Treasuries have 1/3 the real value they have today!

This was a major reason for the oil embargo and other shocks of the 1970s was inflation eating away at the real value of dollars received.

Only two small examples.
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March 21st, 2017 at 7:34:53 AM permalink
Nareed
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Contemporary and modern historians have generally regarded Arminius' victory over Varus as "Rome's greatest defeat", one of the most decisive battles recorded in military history, and as "a turning-point in world history". In any event the Romans never conquered present day Germany, and it never became part of the Roman Empire.


And it left an elderly and senescent Augustus demanding at odd hours late at night "Quintilius Varus, where are my legions?"

Just the same, I've always wondered whether the Battle of Cannae, or the Battle of Adrianople were much worse. Cannae took place within Italy, and allegedly 50,000 to 70,000 Roman soldiers died (more like 10,000 in reality). At Adrianople, the emperor, Valens, was killed (the body was never recovered), and to many scholars it signals the beginning of the end for the Western Roman Empire.
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