United Drags Passenger from Plane

My wife and I were bumped after boarding in Vegas. I think it was Delta years ago. We settled for $800 for the two of us and gladly spent another night in Vegas.

Quote: DRich

I have been bumped after boarding. I put up a big enough stink that they bribed me with enough airline credit that they didn't have to call security (I think it was $1500). Mine was on U.S. Air departing Charlotte for Las Vegas.

Its a bit scary travelling on a free ticket for just being in the industry
Usually we are the 1st to be bumped.
Its a non-revenue ticket
Luckily I have never been bumped

Quote: Evenbob

Naw, it was all legally done. That the
idiot put up a fight is his own problem,
not the airlines. Rules are rules, whether
some classes of people think they apply
to them or not.

I doubt it.

I saw someone posted on Twitter that United violated their own carriage contract with the way they handled him.

I bet United is working up some settlement agreement right now behind the scenes.

Quote: ams288

I doubt it.

And all your predictions are all
sooo accurate.

Quote: Evenbob

And all your predictions are all
sooo accurate.

Why are you bringing politics stuff here?

Were you really on a debate team? cause it sure doesn't feel like it.

Quote: terapined

Its a bit scary travelling on a free ticket for just being in the industry
Usually we are the 1st to be bumped.
Its a non-revenue ticket
Luckily I have never been bumped

The one time I had family flying on one they had to wait to even be confirmed on the flight, couldn't be "bumped" since it was just a more formal version of a crew member waiting for an empty seat to deadhead. They got on as there was plenty of room, but I would never bet a vacation on it. Actually I try to avoid flying no matter what.

Quote: ams288

I bet United is working up some settlement agreement right now behind the scenes.

It depends on whether management's level of stupidity is lower than the PR department's.

United got a lot of positive buzz over it's Polaris business/first class recently in the aviation blogs. Hell, it got good press since before the first Polaris-equipped jet was delivered. Granted this doesn't affect economy passengers much, but good buzz and positive reviews beats Leggings-Gate and dragging people off the plane.

Keep in mind people remember bad things more than good ones, and these two incidents are enough to literally kill, oh, 90% of the good press in recent weeks.

Good job.

Okay folks, as to leggings I'm not really sure because I'm not really sure what they are but have an idea that where teenage girls are involved most men would very tolerant and women might be a more critical of their attire.

Yet this incident is unbearably absurd. The highest priority is the FAA's "Go Team" other priorities apply and a deadheading crew could be a delay to several hundred passengers and perhaps might clog the airport ramp with a plane for which no crew is qualified to even taxi much less take off. I don't care too much about the man being a doctor... its not as if brain surgery was scheduled, just his normal office visits.

Frankly, there should have been no delay in his compliance, he should do his compensation negotiation at the counter. Take his belongings and leave. Promptly.
No excuses. No delays. No rudeness.

Sure over booking is a bad practice and can be 'milked' by many which adds to airline costs. Yes, something should be done. The problem is that no matter how someone was selected, no matter how arbitrary, capricious and unwise it is, you quietly get up, gather your belongings and leave the plane promptly.

You do not argue, complain, throw a tantrum or even protest loudly. You get off the darned plane and head to the bar for a drink, you find a hotel if the airline won't spring for a voucher, you sleep in an airport chair if you have to, but you do not interfere with flight operations ever in any manner whatsoever. What is so wrong with an extra night in that town. There are restaurants, bars, women, casinos. Even the most expensive watered-down drinks and disappointing feminine results in the hotel bar are better than a night in the cell and a computer entry at Homeland Security. Face it folks, society has its defects. Airline decisions may be whimsical, but proper decorum should not be whimsical.

Slightly risque outfits on a teenage girl... well, United Airlines should take a trip to a grocery store or even a bookstore these days. Teenage girls dress the way hookers used to dress. Its the current style. They wear panties saying 'Sugar Daddies Only'. They have Stripper Poles in their bedrooms. Its the world we live in. Yet, don't ever think that no matter how they are dressed they should be on an airplane with someone who refused to obey orders instantly. Its the world we live in.

Quote: AZDuffman

The one time I had family flying on one they had to wait to even be confirmed on the flight, couldn't be "bumped" since it was just a more formal version of a crew member waiting for an empty seat to deadhead. They got on as there was plenty of room, but I would never bet a vacation on it. Actually I try to avoid flying no matter what.

My free tickets for being in the industry are confirmed space tickets
not standby tickets

Quote: Fleastiff

Okay folks, as to leggings I'm not really sure because I'm not really sure what they are but have an idea that where teenage girls are involved most men would very tolerant and women might be a more critical of their attire.


Slightly risque outfits on a teenage girl... well, United Airlines should take a trip to a grocery store or even a bookstore these days. Teenage girls dress the way hookers used to dress. Its the current style. They wear panties saying 'Sugar Daddies Only'. They have Stripper Poles in their bedrooms. Its the world we live in. Yet, don't ever think that no matter how they are dressed they should be on an airplane with someone who refused to obey orders instantly. Its the world we live in.

In the leggings case, if this was a revenue ticket, no biggie
It was not a revenue ticket or a deadhead ticket.
It was a non revenue ticket to travel where you want for simply being in the industry. The Rules are clear. You must dress up a bit
In the old days, business attire was required to travel on a non-revenue ticket gotten for simply being in the industry
I travel on these tickets. I know the rules