The Holy Trinity
June 5th, 2018 at 8:54:50 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I think this immature understanding of God quickly moved from this idea to more of somebody who established the unquestioned and universal laws that govern when one needs to plant their crops. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 6th, 2018 at 12:47:58 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Ya know, when I was a kid, nobody talked about having Jesus as their best friend. Nobody said they had a personal relationship with Jesus. When Pat Robertson said it in the 70's, they said he was loony. Now every Xtion says it, they eat drink and sleep with Jesus. They talk to him and Jesus talks back. I hear it constantly. If you go to a shrink and tell him a dead guy is your best friend, and you talk to him every day, do you know what they do? But if you tell them it's Jesus, do you know what they do? What's an atheist to think about all this, you tell me. What conclusion should I draw. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 6th, 2018 at 12:55:30 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Every culture needs something to explain what they don't understand, so they invent a power outside themselves to blame. The needs for gods disappear when science makes progress. For instance, we no longer pray and do animal sacrifices so we'll get a good crop this year. We use fertilizer and insecticides, and genetically engineered strains of plants instead. it seems to be much more dependable then depending on praying to some god who doesn't exist anyway. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 6th, 2018 at 3:59:11 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
No matter how much one understands about farming, at the end of the day you need rain for the crops to grow. Humans like to perceive a cause for everything. Who do you blame when there is a dry year? The man in the sky, who else? You see this at the blackjack table all the time -- we all lost because he hit when he should have stood. Humans are significance junkies, we hate not being able to blame somebody whenever anything bad happens. Married men know the feeling of getting blamed for things that aren't our fault well. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
June 6th, 2018 at 4:50:53 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
This is a great example of how every religions society has created a god (or gods) to their own chosen specifications. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
June 6th, 2018 at 6:55:35 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Seems pretty obvious Bob. The only conclusion is that there is something different about Jesus. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 6th, 2018 at 8:02:51 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Bob, I just addressed this with ace, maybe you missed the post. What you are describing is a false notion of God usually called the "God of the gaps". That is not what the Abrahamic religions and I think the Eastern as well believe about God. You are thinking of things like Thor, the God of Thunder and polytheistic and pagan gods trying to explain what they did not have the means or ability to explain. So I would agree with you that the more we understand the less people believe in the "god of the gaps", and thank God for that! “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 6th, 2018 at 8:04:44 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Good point, we seem to be built and hardwired to perceive significance and purpose in ourselves and in the world around us. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 6th, 2018 at 1:03:57 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
No, he's no different than every other 2000 year old dead guy. The difference is, his followers are increasingly self deluded. There was a part in the Scopes monkey trial where Brady said god talked to him. Clarence Darrow had a field day with him on the stand, called him everything but a raving loon. That was how people viewed god talking to believers 100 years ago. They were potential mental ward patients. Now talking to gods is an everyday thing. The patients are running the asylum. In 1955 they would have been locked up. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 6th, 2018 at 8:42:42 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Wait a second stop right here. "His followers"? Wouldn't that make Him a little different than most dead guys you know? Think about this for a bit. Go ahead and insult and make fun. You know of course that you are wrong. For over two thousand years people have spoken about their personal relationship with Christ and the conversation through prayer. This is why almost no one would ever think you were crazy for knowing and loving the living Lord Jesus Christ. This is another big difference you seem to recognize between a dead man and the Resurrected Lord. I have to laugh too at your feeble attempt to make it seem like Christians talking about a personal relationship with Jesus is new. Have you never read the NT, the early Church Fathers, or just about any spiritual book about Christ? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |