The Holy Trinity
June 14th, 2018 at 8:17:49 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Wiz believes there is no god, but he's hedging his bets.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 14th, 2018 at 8:22:31 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
A bit off-topic, but here is one of my favorite Christian jokes:
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
June 14th, 2018 at 8:26:42 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I'm amazed. Not only do you ignore the caution of believing in something without an evidence you double down and say that the universe is eternal. What would possibly make you say that? There is no evidence anything material is or ever could be eternal?!? It is simply a philosophical and scientific impossibility. Please tell me why in the world you would think that the universe is eternal? Also what happened before the Big Bang is not just an open question but it is not a scientific question. Any scientist will tell you that for something to be in the purview of science it has to be observable and testable. What happened before the universe came into existence is the question for metaphysics and theology not science. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 14th, 2018 at 8:28:28 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Does this mean he doesn't believe in God but doesn't say with certainty that God does not exist? If so maybe you should follow his lead. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 14th, 2018 at 8:53:02 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
The universe never came into existence, it has always existed. The BB happened inside this universe. And many other BB's as well. They happen all the time. The Church does what it always does, takes a tiny bit of info and draws erroneous conclusions from it to fit it's narrative. No response to my post on Catholic guilt? I don't blame you, I wouldn't want to talk about it either. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 14th, 2018 at 9:07:25 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
This sounds crazy.
What tiny bit of info do you have to say that BB happens all the time or that the universe is eternal? You take nothing and then draw erroneous conclusions from it to fit your narrative. You create out of nothing and in this regard you have something in common with God.
I did respond, maybe you didn't see it. I could fill 100 threads with the posts and questions you ignore. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 14th, 2018 at 9:40:30 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
They KNOW what the Church teaches, that's the PROBLEM!!!! You only ever see your side and the Churches side of everything. You are incapable of seeing the huge burden your religions whacko ideas put on people who take it seriously. You tell them so many contradictory things about sex and their bodies and what marriage should mean and then you get baffled when they get confused trying to make their lives work by living the way you tell them to. You tell Gay people god loves them but they can never have Gay sex because god doesn't approve of that at all. So what you do is take the very essence of their Gayness away from them, and say, too bad, deal with it. We love you, we just don't love what you do and cannot accept it at all. Do you realize or have the slightest conception of how screwed up that is from a psychological perspective? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 15th, 2018 at 7:24:23 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Do you know how this sounds to a man who has embraced celibacy, obedience, and poverty? I know well the burden it is take very seriously my religion. What is more I feel the burden others have even more deeply because it is not freely chosen. The spouse struggling through a difficult time in marriage and they don't have the option of a no-fault divorce, it's a burden. The unplanned pregnancy that could mean the loss of a job or the alienation of family and friends and there is not the option of killing the baby, it is a burden. I could go on and on through ministering to those with terminal illness, the temptation to cheat or to steal, etc. No one, least of all me is oblivious to the huge burdens following Christ seriously puts on people. Also no one is more aware of the lasting joy people experience when they follow the Lord in good times and bad. As Jesus says, "Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light." This oxymoron is on purpose. A burden is a burden and a yoke is hard, until you see what that burden accomplished and where that yoke led you.
You know if I was a gay man I think I would be upset that you have said my essence is wrapped up in having sex. Is that what defines you as a straight man, sex? I think it means loving another person, whether the same gender or not, that is for alk of us our essence. Love's perfect expression is not done only with the genitals. Get your mind out of the gutter and think about what real love is, what is its essence, and how is it most clearly shown. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 15th, 2018 at 11:59:49 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
The first 40 years of my life it was pretty damned important, yeah. It is for most men, look it up.
And there we have it in a nutshell, the Church's real view on sex. The same as it's always been. Sex is dirty and filthy and beneath us. And it's exactly where Catholic Guilt comes from, and why the Church is such a destructive force in so many lives. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 15th, 2018 at 12:40:19 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
Those who think that should read the Song of Solomon. Here is just sampling but the whole book it like this:
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |