The Holy Trinity
April 24th, 2017 at 4:03:52 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Would you like to have a new round of persecutions to test the point? Truth is: all we can say is what happened in late antiquity. We cannot draw generalizations about it.
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April 24th, 2017 at 5:02:58 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Even your own links prove this to false. You like to grab onto a little bit of truth and blow it so much out of proportion to support your views that you lose credibility.
Huh? Today it is the most persecuted religion there is. More Christians have been martyred in recent years than in anytime in history, except maybe the years of the early Church. Maybe it would help you compare the persecutions of Christianity in the early years of its existence to any other religion and then maybe look at the persecutions of it today. Does anything compare besides what was done to our elder brothers and sisters in the faith, the Jewish people? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
April 24th, 2017 at 6:13:36 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
"For most of the first three hundred years of Christian history, Christians were able to live in peace, practice their professions, and rise to positions of responsibility."
Could this be because there are now more Christians than any time in history and they love to live in places where they're hated? You act like they're being hunted in the streets of NYC and Berlin and being martyred every day. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
April 24th, 2017 at 8:38:01 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I haven't found this quote in any of the links you provided, but surely it is there somewhere. However, it doesn't make sense with all the other things it said about the persecutions of the early Church. Maybe if they hid their faith or sacrificed to the pagan gods they could do these things, but not as living out their Christian faith.
No it is because of the persecutions we are suffering.
Please think about what you write before you write it. Is the Christian persecution the Christian's fault for living where they were born? Um...the answer is no. Is it the fault of a rape victim because what they were wearing? also no.
They are being martyred everyday| Maybe not in NYC or Berlin, but in many other places of the world. In NYC the persecution is of a less violent but nevertheless oppresive kind. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
April 24th, 2017 at 8:52:35 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Certainly! If I live in a Black neighborhood and let everyone know I hate Blacks, whose fault is it when I get the crap beat out of me on a regular basis. It's my own fault. I don't smear myself with fish blood and jump into shark infested waters, it's suicidal. If I want to be a known Christian in a country that hates and kills Christians, whose fault is it when I end up dead. If your religion is so dang it all important to you that you have to practice it in hostile environments, what does that say about your common sense. Keep to yourself and live to fight another day will get you much further. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 7:49:54 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Today is the celebration of the Holy Trinity. I was just thinking about God's essence or nature being relationship. I feel that this helps us understand why there is something rather than nothing. A family wants to grow, healthy relationships invite others to take part. God's inner nature as relationship invites us to be in relationship with Him. I find this extraordinary. Anyway my main thought is that obviously atheism has no answer to the why things and especially thinking things like us exist, but a concept of God as a solitary person also doesn't seem to provide an answer. If God who is all perfect and complete in Himself from all eternity, why create anything at all? If God is love in a Trinity of persons we are created out of love to be part of this loving relationship, like a family. But if God is alone and solitary I just don't understand the reasons for creation. Maybe the Muslims or Jews on the forum can help me understand? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 27th, 2018 at 9:28:59 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Perhaps the need to create is innate. The need to help life. Humans keep plants and pets. God keeps us. The President is a fink. |
May 27th, 2018 at 9:43:10 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Good answer. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 27th, 2018 at 11:14:30 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
More hocus pocus nonsense from a hocus pocus religion. The Jews don't believe in a trinity, if Jesus was here he would reject it also as idol worship rubbish. As does any person who really examines what it's supposed to mean. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 27th, 2018 at 12:28:50 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Umm....Jesus is part of the Holy Trinity and revealed to us the Trinity. Not quite sure where you are going with this? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |