Goodbye Net Neutrality

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May 18th, 2017 at 4:04:03 PM permalink
JB
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R.I.P.

Get ready for your ISP to start artificially slowing down content that isn't theirs and isn't coming from a company which is lining the ISP's pockets.
May 18th, 2017 at 4:07:38 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Good Riddance. Free market is a better market. All I have to do is look who is pushing NN and look at what they have historically pushed.
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May 18th, 2017 at 4:08:43 PM permalink
JB
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You obviously don't understand. Net Neutrality was the free market.
May 18th, 2017 at 4:44:35 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: JB
You obviously don't understand. Net Neutrality was the free market.


No, it was not. Net Neutrality is like saying a BMW should cost the same as a Chevy. It is saying Netflix cannot pay for better access for their customers. It is the opposite of a free market.
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May 18th, 2017 at 4:52:24 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: AZDuffman
Quote: JB
You obviously don't understand. Net Neutrality was the free market.


No, it was not. Net Neutrality is like saying a BMW should cost the same as a Chevy. It is saying Netflix cannot pay for better access for their customers. It is the opposite of a free market.

Nope.
Its Netflix being able to cut off access to a competitor.
Its anti free market
Its not a BMW should cost the same as a Chevy
Its car competition dealerships having access to roads and highways.
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May 18th, 2017 at 4:59:40 PM permalink
Nareed
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Q: Do you know what a conservative means when they say "free market"?

A: They don't know, either.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 18th, 2017 at 5:03:53 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Net neutrality allows consumers and suppliers to pay for the bandwidth that they want.

Non-net neutrality allows a carrier in the middle to throttle what both parties have paid for.
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May 18th, 2017 at 5:16:47 PM permalink
Ibeatyouraces
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, it was not. Net Neutrality is like saying a BMW should cost the same as a Chevy.

You do realize that some Chevys DO cost more than some BMWs, right?
May 18th, 2017 at 5:24:06 PM permalink
JB
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Net Neutrality is like saying a BMW should cost the same as a Chevy.

No, NN ensures that customers have equal access to the BMW website and the Chevy website, with neither being favored over the other.

The cable companies are monopolies. You can't move into a new house and choose between Cox, Comcast, or Charter. You get one choice, thus no choice.

Now these monopolies are being given the green light to tell BMW that they'll drop or throttle their traffic unless BMW pays the ISP $xxx,xxx,xxx. This is extortion. You can say "BMW has the right to pay for better service" all you want, but it's extortion. And it doesn't stop there: since they're a monopoly, they can tell the same thing to Chevy, and Mercedes, and Ford, and so on. And they can do this to competing companies across multiple industries, making their victims think they're gaining an advantage over their competition, when in reality, they'll just be paying exorbitant amounts of money for the same access that NN ensures we have today.

That is an abuse of a monopolistic position from companies that are "above" the currently free market.
May 18th, 2017 at 5:30:14 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Ibeatyouraces
You do realize that some Chevys DO cost more than some BMWs, right?


You do realize that is an intellectually lazy comment that shows you missed the point, right?
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