Goodbye Net Neutrality
May 20th, 2017 at 8:55:23 AM permalink | |
JB Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 10 Posts: 111 |
And you've enjoyed NN for those 25+ years. It's not something new that we all of a sudden need, it's been the de facto standard we've always had and should continue to have. It wasn't until Comcast blackmailed Netflix that it became law. Then it became political, and here we are today looking at it like a mountain instead of the molehill it actually is. Saying you don't want NN is like saying you want a red light placed every 100 yards on the interstate. NN keeps the red lights off the interstate and the traffic flowing freely like it always has up until today. I would be in favor of metered usage like water or electricity if it ever came to that, but I would never support slowing down or blocking access for no reason. But I have as much say in the matter as you do, and like I said earlier I suspect the decision has already been made to start setting up those pointless red lights. |
May 20th, 2017 at 9:01:09 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Right now Comcast offers Internet Plus for $44.99 for months 1-12, and $64.99 for months 13-24. Download speeds of 25 Mbps. Equipment, installation, taxes and fees, including Broadcast TV Fee (up to $7/mo.), Regional Sports Fee (up to $5/mo.) and other applicable charges extra, and subject to change during and after the promo. TV and Internet Service limited to a single outlet. TV stations consist of ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS, CW, ION and a few other broadcast channels
What seems more likely is that MSNBC will be included in the above offer at no additional charge. You will have to buy a service which will start at $35 a month to get Fox News. I can't imagine a major corporation in the USA denying access to a channel unless it the Klu Klux Klan television. |
May 20th, 2017 at 9:19:13 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
It isn't about what channels a cable provider offers, it is about which websites an internet provider allows unthrottled access. Netflix has paid a place like Level 3 Communications for enough bandwidth to support their customers. (I don't know what companies netflix pays for their internet access) You, as a customer, buy a 25MBps internet connection from Comcast - enough to support high speed streaming video. Without net neutrality, Comcast will be in a position to slow Netflix to standard definition, and only offer, say, ViaComm streaming at full speed. Note that in this scenario, Netflix has no business relationship with Comcast, and Netflix needs no business relationship with Comcast. They have paid someone for the bandwidth they need, and you the consumer have paid for the bandwidth that you need. If Comcast is complaining that all of the Netflix traffic is slowing down their network for everyone, it is because they oversold their capacity. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
May 20th, 2017 at 11:38:13 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Do you really think that will happen? I would think that the blowback wouldl be huge. |
May 20th, 2017 at 12:37:05 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
The consumer ISP's (not just Comcast) were already accused of throttling netflix. Netflix paid Comcast to increase the size of the interconnect pipes and/or put edge servers within Comcast's network to deal with speed problems years ago. In that case, though, I think it was Comcast screwing all of their customers with their inability to provide advertised speeds to locations outside the Comcast network. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
December 12th, 2017 at 10:51:41 AM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | http://billmoyers.com/story/net-neutrality-vote-kill-open-internet/ Comes a vote, Thursday 12/14 The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
December 12th, 2017 at 2:27:14 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Kill it and let innovation win! The President is a fink. |
December 12th, 2017 at 4:02:21 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Does not having neutrality stop innovation? It seems like this will create choke points where there wasn't before, why not just let the internet flow without obstacles? Isn't removing the neutrality, and having Verizon install brakes on the web, like installing regulation? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
December 12th, 2017 at 4:12:59 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Somehow the internet managed since 1994 without NN. One rule to live by is to NEVER trust a government regulation with a nice sounding name, because the real intent is hidden. The President is a fink. |
December 12th, 2017 at 4:32:13 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Excuse my ignorance. I thought it was NN now. I just didn't want anyone changing it for the worse. Mine runs fine, the way I read it was these big providers were going to create artificial slowdowns and a fee would be charged if you weren't a customer? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |