Long term miracle cures test
May 24th, 2017 at 8:41:24 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Yes. So we can conclude the universe can't be infinite in size.
So the Big Bang proves the universe was created by "God," but even if it wasn't, a "God" had to create it?
Handwavium is a term used in fanish discussions of fiction, particularly in visual media. It means a plot hole, insurmountable problem, pesky scientific fact, or any other obstacle in the plot gets resolved by a wave of the hand (like a magician does on stage). That is, there's no logic leading to it, but there it is. If you want, I can explain the use of hadwavium in all Trek whenever they use a transporter. Ethimologicaly, it's related to unobtainium (an impossible element or substance which is rare, expensive, very much desired, and often can only be fund in only one place).
That's exactly my point. No matter how big a number can be, it's as far from infinity as 1.
Let's assume this is so. What proof do you have our universe is the only one that exists and was created by the one and only (three) god(s), rather than one in a vast ocean of very, very many? Now, here's how you get to infinity: 2^infinity=infinity. infinity-infinity=0. infinity/infinity=1. And infinity/2= infinity. In math, it's just a number :) And gratuitously: "Out of time? You can't run out of time. Time is infinite. You are finite. Zathras is finite. This... is wrong tool." Zathras, while trying to fix a Handwavium ("time stabilizer") and educate Susan Ivanova in the nature of time. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
May 24th, 2017 at 11:49:12 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | I'll never begin to accept the explanation that the Universe is created by a supernatural being, until at least we can find at least one supernatural cause even existing anywhere. Supposedly supernatural beings have acted other than creation. Their Kung Foo is weak sauce. Or worse, bogus sauce. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 24th, 2017 at 12:10:24 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Racism was originally intended to keep outsiders from breeding into your clan, your tribe. The Jews were very good at this, still are in some parts of the world. The Japanese are very racist, they don't want their special kind of people ruined by interbreeding. Racism is wrong when it's turned into bigotry and prejudice. Eugenics was a lofty idea about the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. It was well intentioned but of course was misused and perverted away from it's original idea. Even fascism was created to promote harmony and lack of internal strife within a country. Most ideas don't have evil intentions, they just evolve into evil results thru human mismanagement. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 24th, 2017 at 12:16:18 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
Heard similar comments from ISIS believers, about once everyone is under caliphate it's extremely peaceful. Just kill off dissenters. I believe unfortunately even the best indoctrination and brainwashing doesn't work on everyone so it's an ongoing process to keep executing people. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 24th, 2017 at 12:41:41 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
The point is, the concept has no evil intentions. The people who came up with it honestly think they're doing good for their society or country. They aren't, of course, but they think they are. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 24th, 2017 at 7:31:02 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
What about life and conciousness? These things we also can't explain on a purely natural level. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 24th, 2017 at 7:34:40 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
What the hell are you talking about? Treating someone as inferior because they have a different skin color is evil from its inception. No intent or false goal will make it good. The ends do not justify the means. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
May 24th, 2017 at 9:03:36 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Not to you, but there are people who think it's a good thing to control other people. Quite a few people think that way, in fact. Your own Church forcefully converted Jews for a very long time and saw it as doing their gods work. They even revisited the converted Jews to make sure they had not relapsed, and woe unto them if they had. To paraphrase you, no intent or false goal made this good. The ends do not justify the means. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 24th, 2017 at 9:14:21 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
Logical fallacy alarm! We can not explain A. A is real. We can not explain B. Therefore B is real. This does not follow. Does not compute. A lack of explaination for a real A does not make B, which also lacks explaination, true. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
May 24th, 2017 at 9:41:15 PM permalink | |
Ayecarumba Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 89 Posts: 1744 |
Refer back a few pages to the ready acceptance of alternate explanations from a doctor who never examined the miracle cure patient, and check the alarm |