The Trump Impeachment Thread

Page 2 of 37<12345>Last »
May 25th, 2017 at 9:16:57 AM permalink
Wizard
Administrator
Member since: Oct 23, 2012
Threads: 162
Posts: 3404
The Betfair odds suggest Trump has a 48.5% chance of leaving before his first term is over. If forced, I'd say that percentage sounds a little high and I have a lot of bets against him leaving early. I could see an impeachment trial but I don't see the 2/3 of votes required (right?) to convict.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
May 25th, 2017 at 11:21:27 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 111
Posts: 12163
Quote: Wizard
I could see an impeachment trial .


Really? Based on what, the wishful thinking
of the hysterical Left? Like I keep saying,
it's the last thing a party in power would
do, try and impeach their own president.
It would be like cutting your own throat
at election time.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 25th, 2017 at 2:47:09 PM permalink
Wizard
Administrator
Member since: Oct 23, 2012
Threads: 162
Posts: 3404
Quote: Evenbob
Really? Based on what, the wishful thinking
of the hysterical Left? Like I keep saying,
it's the last thing a party in power would
do, try and impeach their own president.
It would be like cutting your own throat
at election time.


Obstruction of justice. I think 90% of Republicans in Congress would not be unhappy if Trump were replaced by Pence.

Furthermore, how about putting your money where your mouth is. I'll give you -120 odds that Trump completes his first term.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
May 25th, 2017 at 3:21:46 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 331
Posts: 11745
Quote: Wizard
Obstruction of justice. I think 90% of Republicans in Congress would not be unhappy if Trump were replaced by Pence.


That's an understatement. I think if trump dropped dead tomorrow, they'd be smiling behind the official tears.

Me, I'm not that hypocritical. If he dropped dead tomorrow, I'd head to the nearest liquor store and get a bottle of champagne.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 25th, 2017 at 5:34:26 PM permalink
Aussie
Member since: May 10, 2016
Threads: 2
Posts: 274
Quote: Evenbob
Really? Based on what, the wishful thinking
of the hysterical Left? Like I keep saying,
it's the last thing a party in power would
do, try and impeach their own president.
It would be like cutting your own throat
at election time.




Why?

Hypothetically, if it got to the point where public opinion was so bad that no one approved of the job he was doing then it would probably be GOOD for them to impeach their own president. If no one wanted him as president then why would they care if congress impeached him?
May 25th, 2017 at 5:45:09 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 111
Posts: 12163
Quote: Wizard
I think 90% of Republicans in Congress would not be unhappy if Trump were replaced by Pence.


But that's meaningless, it could be 100%. They
didn't vote Trump in, if they vote him out they
just alienated themselves from 95% of their
own party. Believe me, they understand this
better than we ever could. For a politician,
their entire lives revolve around getting re-elected.
They eat and breathe it every day. They might
hate Trump's guts, many Dems sure hated
Obama. But he's there, and you better respect
the voters who put him there.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 25th, 2017 at 6:45:51 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 331
Posts: 11745
Quote: Aussie
Why?


Because it's all wrong!
He'll never get the nomination! He'll never win the election! He'll never get impeached!

Fake news! Fake news! FAKE NEEEEEEEEEEWS!!!

It must be really weird to be emotionally invested in a politician.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 25th, 2017 at 7:08:51 PM permalink
Wizard
Administrator
Member since: Oct 23, 2012
Threads: 162
Posts: 3404
Quote: Evenbob
But he's there, and you better respect
the voters who put him there.


The vast majority of Republicans voted to remove Bill Clinton from office for lying about sex, which I think a very high percentage of married men do. Whatever you feel about that, the vote went down pretty much by party line, not the facts of the case or the will of the voters who voted him into office.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
May 25th, 2017 at 7:10:39 PM permalink
reno
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 54
Posts: 933
Quote: Evenbob
...if they vote him out they
just alienated themselves from 95% of their
own party. Believe me, they understand this
better than we ever could. For a politician,
their entire lives revolve around getting re-elected.
They eat and breathe it every day.


There's certainly some truth to that. But if any President gets unpopular enough, Congress won't hesitate to through him under the bus.

Nixon won in a landslide in 1972-- he got 60.7% of the popular vote. By August 1974, his approval rating (via Gallup) was 24%.

Did Nixon break any law? It's irrelevant, it doesn't matter. Impeachment isn't about law, it's about politics.
May 25th, 2017 at 7:12:54 PM permalink
Dalex64
Member since: Mar 8, 2014
Threads: 2
Posts: 1970
The Republicans turned on Nixon.

http://www.politico.com/story/2007/02/when-the-gop-torpedoed-nixon-002680
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Page 2 of 37<12345>Last »