Men skipping college
July 5th, 2017 at 8:20:12 AM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12528 | I've got a nephew who's in high school, at the age where it's time to start thinking about life after school. It's very interesting. A couple years ago it seemed like he'd definitely be going to college. He's always wanted to go to Ohio State. (My whole extended family is obsessed with Ohio State, maybe that's why I moved to Ann Arbor?) Now... it's not so clear what he's going to do. He's not sure what he wants to do with his life. Why spend thousands of dollars taking generic courses if you might not even stick around to get a degree? Last I heard, it seems like everyone is pushing him towards some sort of trade school. His dad is a very successful electrician who never went to college. Maybe he'll do something similar. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
July 5th, 2017 at 8:36:49 AM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4512 |
I expect I am older than you terapined. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
July 5th, 2017 at 8:50:19 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
Good for him! Tell him to try out a few things, take a couple intro courses at the local community college. He may like welding better than electrician, or not. The college system needs to adapt or die. One thing I see right now is the feminists seem to think they are winning some kind of gender war on campuses while the men are just leaving the game, disgusted with the college product. Watch in 15 years we will see how it is "unfair" that "women have all these student loans." The President is a fink. |
July 5th, 2017 at 8:52:51 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11791 |
Pai Gow dan is an excellent example Yes he used his brain dealing. He also had to stand which was tough on his back at his age Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
July 5th, 2017 at 8:53:29 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11791 |
I'm 58 Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
July 5th, 2017 at 9:09:40 AM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4967 | I have a college degree and my daughter does also but today I believe going to college is a waste of time and resources for most people (not all, but most). With the internet age we now have almost every resource available to us without going to college. It is not hard to find a curriculum listed for a particular degree. My thought now is that if you are motivated you can just find the text books used for all of these courses and there is plenty of help available on the internet to help answer your specific questions. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
July 5th, 2017 at 10:28:54 AM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4512 |
You could do the math from my post yesterday about by first trip to Europe but I am 70. Still no plans to retire until my body and/or mind quit. If I am lucky I have the genes of my uncle who went downhill skiing for his 90th birthday. One of the benefits of a physical job is that you stay fit just by going to work. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
July 5th, 2017 at 12:37:36 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Article today on how ill prepared Millennials are for college life. Half of them are terrified of leaving home, 25% have regular panic attacks. Half of them think eating out and nights out will be their biggest college expense, when by far and not even close, it's lodging costs that are the biggest. Most have no idea what rent really costs in the real world or what it costs to live. But is it really all that different than the past? I knew a guy in the mid 80's who had an employment agency. He would place college grads in jobs. He said they typically swaggered into his office with a degree in one hand and a list in the other of their demands for their first job. Some would literally put their feet up on his desk, they were so smug and self confident. When he broke it to them they would be lucky if he could get them an assistant manager job at a mall shoe store, some of them would bust out bawling. That was over 30 years ago. So things haven't changed all that much. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 5th, 2017 at 12:58:39 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Despite my snap, no-thought typical response of pro-trades, I'd seriously suggest it for anyone leaving high school and unsure of what to do. Best case scenario, he finds he loves it, discovers a career, and avoids a lifetime of soul crushing debt. But even if we skip all the possibilities and go right to worse case, it's a cheap(er) experience that will keep him off the street and will leave him with a skill that can be used in his real life, often with a tremendous cost savings / elimination. Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
July 5th, 2017 at 1:02:15 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
Jesus wept. I can't tell if you've just given me a glimmer of hope, or snuffed out my last one. 34 more years of this s#$%? I think the line is more like 3 point 4, and smart money is on the under ;) Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |