Where will Bitcoin be on 9/4/2018?

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February 5th, 2018 at 8:42:27 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Evenbob
I called this from the gitgo, it had Ponzi written
all over it. Buy in early, get out before it collapses..


I mostly agree with you about Bitcoin but I wouldn't call it a Ponzi scheme. Bitcoin is a tulip, a Beanie Baby, something people buying into knew could pop any time. At least I would hope they could figure that out. A Ponzi scheme is more deceptive. It's dressed up like a legitimate investment but new money just goes to people who got in earlier and to enrich whoever is running the thing. Ponzi schemes are illegal and those who run them deserve to die in jail. Bitcoin was at least transparent. Everyone who bought in knew they were gambling. I feel no sympathy to anyone who lost money on it. Ponzi victims I do have sympathy for.
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February 5th, 2018 at 8:46:18 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard
Bitcoin was at least transparent. I feel no sympathy to anyone who lost money on it.


It was a transparent Ponzi. Amway is a Ponzi.
When people on the ground floor make
money on the people who invest later, that's
a Ponzi.

Pon·zi scheme
ˈpänzē ˌskēm/Submit
noun
a form of fraud in which belief in the success of an enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 5th, 2018 at 9:28:01 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Evenbob
It was a transparent Ponzi. Amway is a Ponzi.
When people on the ground floor make
money on the people who invest later, that's
a Ponzi.

Pon·zi scheme
ˈpänzē ˌskēm/Submit
noun
a form of fraud in which belief in the success of an enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.


No. Amway is a pyramid scheme, not a Ponzi scheme.
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February 5th, 2018 at 9:28:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
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12:30am and BC is at $6000 even, and dropping
like a stone.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 6th, 2018 at 12:11:46 AM permalink
Evenbob
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3am and $5900
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 8th, 2018 at 3:56:22 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
3am and $5900

I'm not sure which website you are looking at but I had 3am and $6050.
At any rate it is back up to $8500

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February 8th, 2018 at 10:57:11 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
I'm not sure which website you are looking at but I had 3am and $6050.
At any rate it is back up to $8500


It was 5900 a couple days ago. What's
happening is, it drops way down like
it did to 10K, then goes back to 12k
for a period, Then it drops down to
6k and goes back the the 8000's for
awhile, where it is now. They say
it's being wildly propped up by the
big investors, who want one more run
so they can cash out at a big profit.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 8th, 2018 at 11:30:51 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
They say it's being wildly propped up by the big investors, who want one more run so they can cash out at a big profit.


I think that is true of any market.

Ethereum does not seem to be making any real gains on Bitcoin. They seem to be moving up and down together

Bitcoin $138.6 billion $8,224.70 / BTC
Ethereum $78.7 billion $807.01 / ETH

Four crypto currencies correspond to 70% of the entire market of 1510 coins
1) Bitcoin
2) Ethereum
3) Ripple
4) Bitcoin Cash
February 8th, 2018 at 9:02:57 PM permalink
Evenbob
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BC reminds me of penny stocks. They go
up and down constantly with people
pumping and dumping for short term
profits. Right now they're pumping to
keep it around 8000, to restore confidence.
People will buy and it will go to 10K, and
they'll dump again, making it fall to 5000.
They'll keep doing this till interest in the
whole thing is exhausted.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 9th, 2018 at 2:41:37 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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