Where will Bitcoin be on 9/4/2018?

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January 8th, 2021 at 7:03:46 AM permalink
AcesAndEights
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Quote: SOOPOO
BTC now $41k+. Happy for my son. Sad for .... me? Actually not sad for me.... I have the stock equivalents innTSLA, NIO, others...

Can AZ chime in on of wealth has been created out of thin air? It seems to me it has.

Holy moly!

I own ~0.02 BTC. Bought on the way down a while back for $200. Now worth $1k. I'm not selling it now, that's for sure. I consider it part of my precious metals stash, to be sold in retirement to fund living expenses, along with stocks and bonds etc.

But I do wish I had bought a bit more back in ~March or so...says everyone with the 20/20 hindsight.
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January 8th, 2021 at 8:11:10 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: SOOPOO
BTC now $41k+. Happy for my son. Sad for .... me? Actually not sad for me.... I have the stock equivalents innTSLA, NIO, others...

Can AZ chime in on of wealth has been created out of thin air? It seems to me it has.


I would argue no wealth was created as someone has to pay that $41k if you sell. That person is losing $41k of wealth and you are gaining it. It seems like a zero sum game to me.
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January 8th, 2021 at 8:34:29 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
I would argue no wealth was created as someone has to pay that $41k if you sell. That person is losing $41k of wealth and you are gaining it. It seems like a zero sum game to me.


Pretty much!

Also Bitcoin is a deflationary currency. Because there will never be more than 21 million of them each one is worth more as more dollars are printed off. It takes less to buy the same thing next year.
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January 8th, 2021 at 12:19:03 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: petroglyph
That's a pretty nice computer.




At the time 0.4038 BTC * $640.69 per BTC = $258.71. But even so the computer could be bought for less cash, but they were still talking about bitcoin as an alternative currency in 2014. Chris Moore gave me BTC as payment for doing a problem for them based on a comment I made on Wizard of Vegas. His name was Chris Moore (@dooglus) , who ended becoming a multimillionare with bitcoin. He has thousands of bitcoins and ran a website from Canada called
Just Dice.

Chris offered a rather casual bet on his website regarding Martingale Strategy made what he thought was a casual bet, but somebody accepted the bet for 50BTC (~$30,000 at the time, but millions today). He won the bet but he realized he was lucky because he miscalculated the odds.

On June 23rd 2014 Dooglus, announced that they would be suspending all betting and investment into Just Dice. They made the change based on regulations released by the Canadian goverment and did not share when they would be bringing gambling back online.
January 12th, 2021 at 11:59:26 PM permalink
rxwine
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Stefan Thomas according to the New York Times, owns 7,002 bitcoin BTCUSD, 1.15% in a digital wallet he can’t access because, he lost the password. He’s tried to guess it eight times to no avail. Now, he’s got two more chances or his fortune will be gone.

The hard drive where his bitcoin is held, known as IronKey, allows users 10 attempts to crack the code before encrypting its contents forever. Understandably, it’s been a stressful time for Thomas, who years ago lost a piece of paper with the password written on it.

“I would just lay in bed and think about it,” he reportedly told the Times in an interview. “Then I would go to the computer with some new strategy, and it wouldn’t work, and I would be desperate again.”


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/he-could-be-on-the-verge-of-unlocking-a-220-milliion-fortune-or-losing-it-forever-11610468562#:~:text=For%20Stefan%20Thomas%2C%20that%27s%20the,eight%20times%20to%20no%20avail.
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January 13th, 2021 at 3:17:58 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: rxwine
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/he-could-be-on-the-verge-of-unlocking-a-220-milliion-fortune-or-losing-it-forever-11610468562#:~:text=For%20Stefan%20Thomas%2C%20that%27s%20the,eight%20times%20to%20no%20avail.



Iron Key

Good advertisement for Iron Key. But $220 million for strings of digits. That is pretty impressive loss to something mundane as a forgotten password.

Early written documents reveal the difficulty with which individuals learned to trust written documents as reliable evidence over verbal oaths, symbolic objects such as pieces of turf or swords, or witness accounts, even when conveyed by descendents of long-dead primary actors. The solutions adopted by early authors of official documents are relevant to the study of paper money because they in turn became the standard features employed to authenticate currency: signatures, seals, dates, inscriptions, and artistic ornamentation.


The Bahamas, the first country to issue digital banknotes (restricted to $500 per personal account) may be the first country to get rid of banknotes. The central bank circulates an inordantly large number of $1 bills (over 60 per person) which is very costly to the government.


The Bahamian central bank has a $50 and $100 bill, which are 75% of the circulating banknotes by value. The $50 circulates at 8 notes per person, and the $100 circulates at 4.5 notes per person.

The Bahamian central bank may simply prefer to stop issuing smaller value (<$50) banknotes and simply rely on digital currency for the lower denominations. Right now the Bahamian central bank is circulating <$300 in coins and small value banknotes (<$50) per person.
January 13th, 2021 at 3:40:42 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: Pacomartin


OMG. Who did they get to sit for that portrait of HM Queen Elizabeth II ? (Queen of the Bahamas)
January 13th, 2021 at 4:28:21 AM permalink
Tanko
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If gold and US Treasuries can be manipulated, how much easier is it to manipulate BTC?

In September, JPM paid a $920 million fine for manipulating precious metals and Treasuries. The case covers eight years, but they could have been doing it longer than that.

They were ‘spoofing’’. Putting in large orders with no intention of executing them. Didn’t matter whether ‘buy’ or ‘sell’, JPM got the market to move in the desired direction.
January 13th, 2021 at 7:31:10 AM permalink
terapined
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I dont understand bitcoin
I just got a text from my nephew who is big on this and follows it closely
He insisted I buy
So I just bought 1k worth of bitcoin on coinbase
Just dipping my toe in
Told my nephew if I eventually sell, will split the profit if it goes up

+0.02935759 BTC
@ $33,562.70 per BTC
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January 13th, 2021 at 8:17:09 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: terapined
I dont understand bitcoin
I just got a text from my nephew who is big on this and follows it closely
He insisted I buy
So I just bought 1k worth of bitcoin on coinbase
Just dipping my toe in
Told my nephew if I eventually sell, will split the profit if it goes up

+0.02935759 BTC
@ $33,562.70 per BTC


It is only up $1,000 since you bought it. But it is SO volatile after I finish typing this that will have changed.