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Were we a different species in the 1950's and 1960's

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October 2nd, 2017 at 12:30:29 PM permalink

Pacomartin

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United Airline's First Jet Orders
Model Engine	First Order	Ord	First Delivery
DC-8	PW	01-Oct-1955	20	29-May-1959
DC-8	PW	01-Nov-1955	17	21-Jan-1960
DC-8	PW	01-Oct-1957	13	18-Apr-1961
DC-8	PW	01-Apr-1963	15	30-Jan-1964
DC-8	PW	01-Apr-1965	2	08-Dec-1967
DC-8	PW	01-Jun-1967	7	15-Jun-1969
DC-8	GE	01-Apr-1965	28	26-Jan-1967
DC-8	GE	01-Jun-1967	3	22-Jun-1969

707/720	PW	12-Dec-1955	5	19-Apr-1959
707/720	PW	15-Jun-1964	13	21-Aug-1964
707/720	PW	22-Nov-1957	29	30-Apr-1960
707/720	PW	13-Jun-1961	8	28-Apr-1962

A United DC-8 seating chart:
economy class first class standard pitch of 38"
first class seat width 22.7"
economy class seat width 16.8" (16.4" center)

Along with the lounges and buffets the seating capacity was 129 with 16 in first class.

October 2nd, 2017 at 1:02:20 PM permalink

Nareed

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Quote: Pacomartin
A United DC-8 seating chart:
economy class first class standard pitch of 38"
first class seat width 22.7"
economy class seat width 16.8" (16.4" center)

I think today's seats are wider.

What doesn't get talked about much is the cushioning of seats. They used to be far more comfortable decades ago. You hear a bit about it when slimline seats are mentioned, but I'm sure cushions have become thinner for a long time now.

We were the same species. It's the airlines who've mutated into nickel-and-dime-sucking monsters.

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October 2nd, 2017 at 1:08:35 PM permalink
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569	Quote: Nareed I think today's seats are wider. Seats on Southwest are 17" wide; Allegiant are 17" to 17.50"; Spirit Airlines are 17.75 I just assumed they were wider than that 40 years ago. I knew the pitch was bigger, but I didn't think it was that big. Bombardier's advertising for extra wide seats

October 2nd, 2017 at 1:20:35 PM permalink

Nareed

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Quote: Pacomartin
The narrowest seats are 17" wide. I just assumed they were wider than that 40 years ago. I knew the pitch was bigger, but I didn't think it was that big.

Aeromexico has 31" pitch, and Interjet advertises 34". Frankly I'm ok with both (and I know they're extravagant by today's standards). What bothers me is the thin cushions and the lack of leg supports.

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October 2nd, 2017 at 4:08:15 PM permalink
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569	Quote: Nareed What bothers me is the thin cushions and the lack of leg supports. OW! OW!

October 2nd, 2017 at 4:16:33 PM permalink
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4967	Quote: Nareed Aeromexico has 31" pitch, and Interjet advertises 34". Frankly I'm ok with both (and I know they're extravagant by today's standards). What bothers me is the thin cushions and the lack of leg supports. Be careful with your comments, they might just go to hard plastic seats and charge a fee for any cushion. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.

October 2nd, 2017 at 5:56:21 PM permalink
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569	Quote: DRich Be careful with your comments, they might just go to hard plastic seats and charge a fee for any cushion. This guy in San Francisco is trying to figure out how to save 2 pounds per seat.

October 3rd, 2017 at 6:44:50 AM permalink
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545	Quote: DRich Be careful with your comments, they might just go to hard plastic seats and charge a fee for any cushion. Some airlines already charge a fee for a pillow and/or blanket. Cushions are the next logical move. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER