Will God Survive Science
October 15th, 2017 at 5:27:57 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
People pick line by line what they think is literally true in the Bible and what is just a story, with either no basis in reality to discriminate between them or being forced by science to label them as stories. The Bible tells us god created the universe and gives us two stories as to how. We are now told that even though the stories in the bible about how god created the universe are just stories, god still created the universe. Even though the stories are no longer believed to be actual, factual accounts of how the universe was created, the "message" (obviously?) Is that god created the universe. So basically discard whatever "facts" you want from the bible, either by choice or by debunking, get whatever "message" church leaders have told you the message is, and nevermind the fact that they built a house on a foundation and then erased the foundation. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
October 15th, 2017 at 5:41:14 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
He forgot the other 'sciences', like astrology, numerology, ghost hunting, Ouija boardology, and water witching. They are sciences too if theology is now a science. Which of course it is not. sci·ence ˈsīəns/ noun: science the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. The supernatural cannot be studied scientifically because it can't be proven to exist, let alone be studied and observed. The Amazing Randi still has his million bucks. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 15th, 2017 at 6:31:43 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4459 |
I wasn't talking about heliocentrism in my last post I was talking about genesis vs science. Science makes it pretty hard to take genesis as a true story. Now I realize that you have various ways of trying to meld the two. This melding I think though just proves my original post that religion is continually changed as science learns more about our world. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
October 15th, 2017 at 6:36:06 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Sorry what I meant to say is that I didn't make up that term. I did call them that but I didn't come up with the distinction, if you find it offensive or degrading to the physical sciences I will happily refrain from using it. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 15th, 2017 at 6:38:28 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
A simpler and maybe easier way to say this is to not treat the Bible as a science textbook. It is not and never claims to be. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 15th, 2017 at 6:40:42 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4459 | If multiple universes exist do they each have their own God or do they simply share one or some Gods? "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
October 15th, 2017 at 7:00:23 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | They still had to be created and they share the one God creator of all things. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 15th, 2017 at 7:17:45 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
God is the scapegoat, as always. He is the explanation when there is none, the default when confusion arises. That worked once upon a time when the world was run by superstition, but the world moved on and the Church did not. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 15th, 2017 at 7:20:22 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
It's offensive that you constantly try and portray religion as being in the realm of logic and science. That's very offensive to anybody who can think for themselves and doesn't need a daddy Church to do their thinking for them. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 15th, 2017 at 7:38:40 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18556 | In order to work the Adam and Eve story into the Science of Evolution, you have to assume that Adam & Eve were the first of the line of our evolutionary species to get self-awareness at a human level. (Tree of Knowledge event) You can then get away with calling them the first humans as long as you pretend the creation of the first humans was the evolutionary jump necessary for human thinking and self-awareness. If Adam & Eve were created whole cloth without any prior species, they fail the test for Evolution. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |