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Roy Moore gets creepier and creepier
He called a high school and demanded the principal pull a girl out of her math class so he could speak to her on the phone
WTF
What a sicko

I don't understand how conservatives defend this creep simply due to politics
I have no problem throwing Franken under the bus
Politics is meaningless to me when it come to sexual assault
Unless you are AZ or EB. Politics is everything. They attack Franken but give Moore a pass
sad

Quote: terapined

I don't understand how conservatives defend this creep simply due to politics

I do. They have no shame.

Quote: ams288

It's funny.

So many of the righties jump to defend the pedophile.

I haven't seen any liberals immediately come to Franken's defense.

Then, let me, as a moderate, do so.

Context. He was a professional comedian for many years at that time. Known primarily for writing shows with both funny dialog and physical humor. Watch any number of youtube SNL clips to see what a comedy troupe will do physically to get laughs.

They were both part of a USO tour. She had agreed to perform with him, including the skit where they kissed.

In the photo, she's wearing a FLAK JACKET. That means inches of padding, possibly kevlar. He's NOT touching her or the jacket; the photo is posed so that it appears like it, but you can see from the shadows under his fingers he's just close by. The joke is/was, he's such a nerd, he would try to cop a feel through padding so thick he might as well be groping a mattress. But, instead, a decade later, let's be totally humorless and claim it was demeaning. It was a gag photo. (Sure, make the joke.)

If you listen to her full interview, it seems obvious they didn't like each other. She takes several gratuitous shots at him along the way. He's a popular guy. She may have been an iron bitch to him and everybody else the entire time; she comes off like many I met while working in the industry. And touring like that is really hard, tiring, anxiety-inducing. You're a target. People do that because of dedication to the troops, it's rewarding, but it's not fun. So now, she gets to crap all over a guy she didn't like. Opportunist.

Now. In the light of today, it's not funny. She was asleep, so was not in on the joke. Which makes it targeted at her. Poor judgement.

She was not a professional actress. She didn't have improv classes, training, or apparently a sense of humor. She was some kind of model who was trying to get a career. Franken is one of those guys who, either you laugh and roll with his humor, be his friend, or you are the object of his scorn and derision. She obviously is a Category B person. He is harsh and edgy. He was a couple years before my time working in Minneapolis in the theater scene, but we had friends and companies in common. I met him several times at parties and backstage here and there. He's not a predator.

He screwed up back then, because his humor in that situation doesn't play now. So what does he do? He apologizes. Doesn't deny it happened, or was stupid. And agrees his behavior needs to change. He wasn't a Senator then, but he acknowledges the mistake.

What more is there to know or to worry about? I think it's dreadfully unfair to mention a joke gone bad in the same BREATH with Weinstein, Moore, or especially TRUMP.

Quote: ams288

I do. They have no shame.

I don't get it
Sexual assault is wrong
It has nothing to do with politics
Its a crime. You do the crime, you pay the price. Politics is meaningless
Nobody asks a bank robber their politics before deciding guilt
Why do conservatives need to know the politics of a sexual assaulter before determining guilt?

Quote: terapined

Why do conservatives need to know the politics of a sexual assaulter before determining guilt?

Repeating what I've read about it, Alabama law does not allow the GOP to set a replacement candidate. If Moore drops out anyway, then votes cast for him don't count. Votes for a write-in candidate would count. No clue what happens if Moore drops out and people vote for him as a write-in.

This means the GOP majority for the remainder of the present Congress goes from 52 to 51 if they lose a seat in Alabama. This means any measure can be defeated with just two defections rather than three. Which likely means tax reform is deader than Trump's brain.

Quote: reno

Leigh Corfman voted for Trump. Beverly Nelson voted for Trump.

Interesting how you KNOW someone voted for Trump! You were looking over her shoulder when she voted? What you are saying is that the accuser SAID she voted for Trump. So if someone is going to rat out a Repub, and wanted to seem more credible, who would they SAY they voted for? Really difficult to figure this one out!

(Playing Devil's advocate----- I believe them....)

Quote: terapined

I don't get it
Sexual assault is wrong
It has nothing to do with politics
Its a crime. You do the crime, you pay the price. Politics is meaningless
Nobody asks a bank robber their politics before deciding guilt
Why do conservatives need to know the politics of a sexual assaulter before determining guilt?

Agreed 100%! Personally, I condemn all sexual harassment or assault and don't care about their party affiliation. There are good and bad people in just about any cross segment of society you can think of.

It is the easy and convenient things to do to hate people by association.

Quote: SOOPOO

Interesting how you KNOW someone voted for Trump! You were looking over her shoulder when she voted? What you are saying is that the accuser SAID she voted for Trump. So if someone is going to rat out a Repub, and wanted to seem more credible, who would they SAY they voted for? Really difficult to figure this one out!

(Playing Devil's advocate----- I believe them....)

I can't prove that Leigh Corfman and Beverly Nelson aren't professional Hollywood actresses hired to pretend to be from Alabama. Former Gadsden mall employee Becky Gray might be an actress, and former mall employee Greg Legat might be an actor. And Moore's own co-worker, deputy district attorney Theresa Jones, might also be an actress. (Does Theresa Jones have a history of accusing her co-workers of dating teenagers?)

It might be an enormous conspiracy. But I doubt it. If they're all lying, they're risking some enormous legal bills for defamation.

Quote: AZDuffman

He would be just another senator and the lamestream media will have moved on.

Nah, the lamestream media won't move on just because the election is over. They'll keep the pressure on til his term ends.

Hey, AZDuffman- I've got a hypothetical question for you. You don't consider the accusations against Moore to be credible. But for the sake of argument, suppose a Republican politician running for office in your district had admitted to molesting a 14 year old a couple decades ago, (therefore, you had no doubt about his guilt-- Dennis Hastert comes to mind). Would you hold your nose and vote for the Democrat? Would you sit out the election? Or would you pull the lever for the sex offender?

Quote: reno

Hey, AZDuffman- I've got a hypothetical question for you. You don't consider the accusations against Moore to be credible. But for the sake of argument, suppose a Republican politician running for office in your district had admitted to molesting a 14 year old a couple decades ago, (therefore, you had no doubt about his guilt-- Dennis Hastert comes to mind). Would you hold your nose and vote for the Democrat? Would you sit out the election? Or would you pull the lever for the sex offender?

Hey Reno- Hypothetical question for you. In a presidential election would you vote for a washed up old lady that helped cover up her husbands rape of numerous people or would you hold your nose and pull the lever rather than vote for the Republican candidate?