Exxon's R&D budget for green technology
November 3rd, 2017 at 2:28:03 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 | Exxon says that since 2000, it has spent $8 billion researching, developing, and deploying low carbon technologies. It's current budget for green R&D is $1 billion annually.
I have mixed feelings about their claims, because on the one hand basic research is extremely slow, and it's understandable that converting their findings into profitable commercial applications takes years and years. On the other hand, why is it always 10 years away? Many other companies which much smaller budgets are already far ahead of Exxon in terms of deploying green technology, now, not 10 years from now. At United Airlines' LAX hub, the airline has been using an aviation fuel blend of 30% algae-based biofuel, 70% conventional jet fuel since March 2016. United will purchase 15 million gallons of algae-produced biofuel between now and 2019. Moreover, United Airlines has invested $30 million in Fulcrum Bioenergy which generates fuel not from algae, but from: household trash. Fulcrum uses food scraps, paper, wood, textiles, and cardboard from municipal waste facilities. The cost? Less than $1/gallon. Fulcrum and United agreed to a 10-year contract to buy 90 million gallons of garbage-based aviation fuel per year. Fulcrum plans to build 5 refineries near the airline’s hub airports, with the first expected to begin operating in 2019. Maybe Exxon's $1 billion would be better spent purchasing all of Fulcrum, and using their proprietary technology to build biofuel refineries next door to every large airport in the US, cornering the entire aviation fuel market with cheap, renewable, household garbage. |
November 3rd, 2017 at 2:33:27 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
ExxonMobil has hundreds to thousands of times more to lose if they put out a bad idea or something faulty and get sued. When you are the #1 by far you do not do research to have the next big thing. You do it to be a "fast follower" and jump into what starts to move. The President is a fink. |
November 3rd, 2017 at 3:26:23 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Exxon has a popular product they're set to distribute and sell, plus tons of money and market value. Startups lack a product, so they have to develop one fast. Smaller companies, even if established, lack money and market value, so they also want a new product they can sell lots of. Exxon is developing side dishes, the small companies are developing their basic sustenance. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
November 3rd, 2017 at 5:58:08 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
I like Shell's approach instead. In December 2016, a Shell-led consortium of energy companies won a bid to build a 680 megawatt off-shore wind farm in the Netherlands. Shell is investing $319 million in the project, and needless to say 680 MW is huge. That's enough power for about 500,000 homes. The project should be complete by 2020. In theory, I appreciate Exxon's long-term strategy, but Shell's project should produce real-world results much sooner. |
November 3rd, 2017 at 10:01:29 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The current largest off-shore wind farm in the world is the London Array at 630 MW (175 turbines) |
November 4th, 2017 at 3:22:48 AM permalink | |
odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5106 |
a lot of things are always a decade or two away; and sometimes prove to be permanently so, like the lyrics "love ya, Tomorrow, always a day away!" ... especially things thinly supported like switching to renewable energy, but also things that require vision for the future. People who predict future technologies are still getting it wrong pretty often. some headlines coming up in a google search: Manned Mission to Mars By 2030s Is Really Possible, Experts Say NASA Now Says Manned Mars Mission in 2030s Is Unlikely ... Auto Outlook 2040: The Rise of Fully Autonomous Vehicles | Loup ... Renewable Energy Can Provide 80 Percent of U.S. Electricity by 2050 ... I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
November 4th, 2017 at 10:52:48 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
And about as reliable as all the predictions made about the year 2000 in the 60's and 70's. Flying cars, robots, auto pilot cars. Colonies on the moon and mars. Instead we got cell phones and home computers, which nobody predicted. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |