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November 13th, 2017 at 8:34:36 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin
In the case of NBC you could say the series were spin-offs.
Law & Order
Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Law & Order: Trial by Jury
Law & Order: LA
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
Law & Order True Crime


Was there much crossover, though? Other than the occasional guest star crossover, I thought the only connection was just the same format.

On that note, how does everyone feel when shows crossover on just a few things? For example, "Sons of Anarchy" dealt with some of the same gangs as they did on "The Shield." "Las Vegas" I believe crossed over into I do not know what, maybe the new "Knight Rider" to resolve a few loose ends. Back in the 1980s, "LA Law" imported two characters from "Civil Wars" to work at the firm. Interesting or lazy writing?
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November 13th, 2017 at 9:27:20 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
Law & Order: Criminal Intent


Robert Goren was the smartest detective in TV fiction.
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November 13th, 2017 at 9:42:38 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Nareed
Robert Goren was the smartest detective in TV fiction.


Are you discounting Maxwell Smart, or would he not be considered a detective?
November 13th, 2017 at 9:49:33 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: DRich
Are you discounting Maxwell Smart, or would he not be considered a detective?


Max was a secret agent. He was smarter than ten Nobel prize winners combined. Would you believe it, ten?
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November 13th, 2017 at 12:35:14 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
It can still get blurry. "Lou Grant" was a success, but in a weird was as it was a drama that came from a sitcom. I never saw an episode, but how much of the character carried over?

You can still have a backdoor pilot and be a spinoff. I think these rarely work because way back, the viewers felt "cheated" and today the audience is sophisticated enough to see what is going on. I remember when "The Fall Guy" had a backdoor pilot to "Trauma Center" which had nothing to do with TFG, but to make matters worse, the storyline finished on "Trauma Center," so you had to watch TC twice! Heather Thomas or no Heather Thomas, that is a rip-off!


I remember these ones in particular, that I watched personally, and I think viewers could be considered 'cheated' by not watching THEIR show but a pilot for another one:

(snips from site referenced before)

The Emergency! episode "905-Wild" was a pilot for a Jack Webb production centered on animal control officers, starring Mark Harmon and Albert Popwell, which did not get picked up.

A sixth-season episode of Bones, "The Finder", featured the show's main cast taking a back seat to a new collection of characters led by an old friend of Booth's played by Geoff Stults. It was a backdoor pilot for a new series called The Finder, also created by Hart Hanson (the creator of Bones). (An early tip-off for knowledgeable fans was that this violated the normal format for episode titles: The X in the Y.)

The Stargate SG-1 two-parter "Lost City", the season 7 finale, is a backdoor pilot for Stargate Atlantis, introducing Elizabeth Weir, ZPMs, and the Antarctic outpost. Originally, it was supposed to be a separate movie between the two series and the Antarctic outpost was supposed to be Atlantis itself, but the spin-off was moved to a different galaxy when SG-1 was renewed for the eighth season.

I remember watching those, in particular the first two, and wondering what the heck was going on.
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November 17th, 2017 at 9:34:33 AM permalink
Wizard
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Another strong episode of Young Sheldon last night. After choking on a piece of sausage, Sheldon develops a fear of eating hard food. I don't want to spoil anything but let's just say that it also where Sheldon finds he interest in comic books.

I encourage all to give the show a try, regardless how you feel about TBBT. As I've said before, the Young Sheldon is a lot more like The Wonder Years. However you may have felt about that show would likely predict your feelings of Young Sheldon.

Speaking of which, here one of my favorite scenes from the Wonder Years. You may recognize the guest star as the one who plays Karen's hippy boyfriend -- John Corbett, who later found much bigger fame on Northern Exposure and Sex and the City. Sorry for the lousy audio.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
November 17th, 2017 at 10:56:07 AM permalink
JimRockford
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Northern Exposure would be worth watching again, but I can't find it anywhere.
Where is Joseph Mifsud?
November 17th, 2017 at 11:22:11 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: JimRockford
Northern Exposure would be worth watching again, but I can't find it anywhere.


I bought good bootleg DVD's on Ebay. Be warned that not all the bootlegs are good quality. The official DVD's have a lot of the music removed, which ruins it.
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November 24th, 2017 at 8:53:12 PM permalink
Wizard
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Another great episode of YS today. This one I could identify with. Sheldon was absolutely right that early in the game, especially with good field position, the odds favor going for the fourth down on fourth and short. It was not that long ago that the convention wisdom was "When it doubt, punt." However, it was repeated so many times, everybody accepted it without question. However, it should have been questioned. I won't go into all the statistics but Sheldon was absolutely right.

Yet another connection I can make is the casino scene. We see Sheldon's grandmother playing at an unnamed casino in Louisiana. Louisiana legalized casino gambling in 1993 (source), which would date the show to sometime after that date. Jim Parsons is 44 years old. I would put his character in YS at about 11. Assuming his character is the same age on TBBT, that would make Sheldon 11 in 1984. However, I think the character of adult Sheldon is younger than 44. Kaley Cuoco (who plays Penny) seems to be about the same age as Sheldon on the show but the actress is only 31. I guess I'm going off on a tangent here. I'll leave it to Paco to explain what my point is.
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November 24th, 2017 at 10:43:09 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
I'll leave it to Paco to explain what my point is.

It is a very Sheldon thing to worry about small errors on a TV show, but here goes.

Sheldon was born alongside his twin sister Missy on February 26, 1980
Jim Parsons born March 24, 1973. (7 years older than his character)

Leonard was born on May 17, 1980
"Johnny" Galecki was born April 30, 1975 (5 years older than his character)

Penny was born on December 2, 1985
Kaley Cuoco was born November 30, 1985 (only 3 days older than her character)

Howard Joel Wolowitz born December 9, 1981
Simon Helberg born December 9, 1980 (exactly 1 year older than his character)

Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappali Born October 6, 1981
Kunal Nayyar born April 30, 1981 (a little over 5 months older than his character)

Sheldon is only age 9 in Young Sheldon, and LA did not pass their gambling laws until 1991 and the casinos weren't open for another two years. So there is a mismatch of about 4 years between reality and the TV chronology.

However, if we use Jim Parson's real age the mismatch is much more egregious, 11 years.

Firefly was on television from September 20, 2002 and was cancelled in December 2002. It was on television when Leonard and Sheldon met because Sheldon noted that it would never be cancelled when he was interviewing Leonard. So they met at age 22.


In real life Johnny Galecki looks more like a 42 year old single multi millionaire.


Jim Parsons looks the same to me. He also sounds like a middle aged man-child in real life.
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