Does Religion Make People Moral?

Quote: FrGamble

Was it sin that killed the Israelite babies then?

Sin isn't a real thing. Like your
silly god, it's all in your head.
Prove sin is real. You cannot
because you can't even prove
a god is real. Fairy tales and
stories, people will believe
anything..

Quote: FrGamble

Was it sin that killed the Israelite babies then?

Of course not. It was the Pharaoh who gave the orders and the people who carried them out.

No their children.

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Would you rather God do nothing to protect the vulnerable, enslaved, and poor?

Why start now?

Quote: FrGamble

I wonder what the pharmacist would do if his children were treated in the same way as he is treating the poor children in his neighborhood.

What do you know about it? What if the pharmacist's twins are undergoing chemotherapy and bone marrow transplants for cancer, and he needs every penny he earns in order to pay for their care?

Bob, not sure if you just like to hear yourself speak this nonsense or not, but it isn't helpful. First of all you couldn't even respond when everything that you said shows that Col. Sanders exists I pointed out could also be used to show God exists. You also continue to repeat this silly circular argument of yours about sin. Sin doesn't exist because sin offends God and God doesn't exist in your mind because you have abandoned reason and logic and therefore sin doesn't exist. Sin, or to help you out lets just call it evil, is the most obvious thing in the world.

Quote: Nareed

Of course not. It was the Pharaoh who gave the orders and the people who carried them out.

Something we agree on.

Quote: Nareed

What do you know about it? What if the pharmacist's twins are undergoing chemotherapy and bone marrow transplants for cancer, and he needs every penny he earns in order to pay for their care?

So this makes it moral to stockpile and withhold needed drugs to poor children in need? Think about what you are saying here.

Quote: FrGamble

just call it evil, is the most obvious thing in the world.

Evil depends on where you're
standing. The drunk driver
who kills the father of 3 kids
is evil personified to that family.
To the undertaker and funeral
director, dead guys like this is how
they make their Mercedes
payments every month.

Where is the evil, it seems to move
around with your point of view.

Quote: FrGamble

So this makes it moral to stockpile and withhold needed drugs to poor children in need? Think about what you are saying here.

Do you even know how much a pharmacist makes off prescriptions? Given how loaded with toiletries, makeup, snacks and assorted junk pharmacies are full of, I dare say it isn't much. Giving the drug away would mean paying for it himself to the drug company.

But you're looking at the situation all wrong, and so was Aquinas. The problem isn't one person withholding something from another, but rather the existing social system and the particular circumstances that keep some people from being able to acquire necessities like food and medicine. You're not going to fix that by giving carte blanche to theft.

Quote: Nareed

But you're looking at the situation all wrong, and so was Aquinas. The problem isn't one person withholding something from another, but rather the existing social system and the particular circumstances that keep some people from being able to acquire necessities like food and medicine. You're not going to fix that by giving carte blanche to theft.

Yet another thing we agree on and I don't think Aquinas would disagree with you either.

Quote: FrGamble

Yet another thing we agree on and I don't think Aquinas would disagree with you either.

Socialism is the obvious answer,
or Communism, which is the same
thing. And we all know how well
that works..