collapse of the democrat party

December 18th, 2017 at 10:45:42 AM permalink
petroglyph
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I always liked Ralph Nader? He advocated for gov employees to be paid once per year, wore second hand army boots, even when in a business suit. And as we all know, fought to have fuel tanks re positioned in road bombs.

This is his explanation of how money destroyed the dem party, the party that years ago was thought to represent labor.
[hint; follow the money]

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December 18th, 2017 at 3:19:59 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: petroglyph

This is his explanation of how money destroyed the dem party, the party that years ago was thought to represent labor.


I don't like his politics, but he is indeed telling the Democrat Party what has happened to them. As to representing labor, you can trace it to 1964 when the Democrats stopped that. A decade later, they would lose the white vote, essentially never to regain it. Unions followed them over the edge.

My dad was always pro-union, big time. It was not until the 2000s that I pointed out to him that the unions were not backing everything he was against. He never fully left supporting them, but he finally saw my point. He would vote GOP, but he never switched parties.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
December 18th, 2017 at 8:52:38 PM permalink
Wizard
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What is the adjective form of Democrat? Somehow "Democrat Party" sounds like bad English but that seems to be the parlance of our times.
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December 18th, 2017 at 9:16:44 PM permalink
ChesterDog
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Quote: Wizard
What is the adjective form of Democrat? Somehow "Democrat Party" sounds like bad English but that seems to be the parlance of our times.


I've heard "Democrat Party" since the mid 60s, and it has always sounded like a curse word to me. I believe only Republicans use that term.
December 18th, 2017 at 9:47:50 PM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Democratic Party.

That's how they and neutral writers refer to them.

Republicans like to claim they aren't democratic, so they drop the "ic". At least that's my impression.
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December 18th, 2017 at 11:24:40 PM permalink
Evenbob
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If it's the Democratic party, then as
individuals they would be Democratics,
not Democrats. Republican party
members are not Republics. They're
Republicans. Democratic party
members are Democratics.
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December 19th, 2017 at 2:50:10 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
What is the adjective form of Democrat? Somehow "Democrat Party" sounds like bad English but that seems to be the parlance of our times.


Democrats like thinking they are "democratic" so over time the name got modified in use.

Plural is not "Democratics" as in, "all my friends are Democratics!"

Even singular, no button ever said, "Vote foo, Democrartic for Congress!"

Having seen old political buttons, pre-1980s the term was way more "Democrat Party."
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December 20th, 2017 at 9:18:54 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
Somehow "Democrat Party" sounds like bad English but that seems to be the parlance of our times.


It's been the source of rancor since WWII.

Quote: NYTIMES: August 17, 1984

Democrats Find Ally In Republican Camp

DALLAS, Aug. 16 Representative Jack F. Kemp, Republican of upstate New York, placed himself in an unusual position today. He defended Democrats before the Republican platform committee.

When a delegate asked unanimous consent to change a platform amendment to read the ''Democrat Party'' instead of ''Democratic Party,'' Mr. Kemp objected, saying that would be ''an insult to our Democratic friends.'' The committee later decided to drop the issue because it lacked unanimous support.

The term ''Democrat Party'' has been used in recent years by some right-wing Republicans on the ground that the term used by Democrats implies that they are the only true adherents of democracy.

Democrats in the House objected so loudly to the terminology several years ago that the House Republican leadership, including Mr. Kemp, openly called on Republicans to say ''Democratic'' to avoid needless rancor between the two parties.