Question on the significance of a plane's weight
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January 17th, 2018 at 2:51:21 PM permalink | |
boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 | Jetblue has free wifi and it's pretty good. I think that you have to sign up to the rewards program and provide them with an email address. |
January 17th, 2018 at 8:12:19 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The extra thousand miles through JFK or BOS would have been made up by shorter layover times. Of course if those planes also left Las Vegas an hour late, they would have missed their connection. One would normally think that flying in the middle of winter through Florida is less risky than flying through the Northeast, especially with a 4.5 hour layover. 2,381 mi + 2,058 mi = 4,439 mi via BOSTON 2,248 mi + 1,951 mi = 4,199 mi via JFK 2,174 mi + 1,144 mi = 3,317 mi via FLL (79 miles longer than theoretical nonstop) JetBLUE scheduled routes Las Vegas to Aruba Layover: 0:38 Total time: 9:53 via overnight JFK Layover: 1:13 Total time: 10:51 via overnight BOS Layover: 4:31 Total time: 12:18 via overnight FLL <============ Layover: 3:41 Total time: 12:59 via overnight JFK Layover: 5:20 Total time: 14:59 via overnight BOS On March 8, 2018 Southwest begins flights from FLL to Aruba. Unfortunately the connection times suck Flights leave FLL for Aruba at 10:55AM, but the flights from Vegas arrive in FLL between midnight and 2 AM. |
January 18th, 2018 at 12:20:06 AM permalink | |
boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 |
WN does not offer redeyes anywhere. It has a direct flight to Aruba from its Orlando hub.. You can fly LAS - MCO, overnight, then do MCO - AUA (you can't book this on a single ticket). Apparently from what I read their reservation computer was not capable of booking a redeye until the middle of last year. |
January 18th, 2018 at 7:53:38 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | I wonder whether the kinds of flight delays we get to see these days have anything to do with lower use of actual travel agents. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
January 19th, 2018 at 1:58:02 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Orlando-Aruba 8:45 AM 12:50 PM 4575 Nonstop 10:00 AM 2:05 PM 1630 Nonstop Fort Lauderdale-Aruba 10:55 AM 2:45 PM 1632 Nonstop There is a lot to be said for booking your beach vacation to someplace where you can fly nonstop. Panama City does not have the cachet of Aruba, but it is nice and warm and there are no hurricanes. Las Vegas (LAS), -Panamá (PTY) 12:31 AM - 10:00 AM (Total time-6:29) redeye 06:22 PM - 10:19 PM (Total time-6:57) return flight Las Vegas (LAS), -Aruba (AUA) via overnight FLL Layover: 4:31 Total time- 12:18 So even if everything goes perfectly that is six hours saving on travel time. |
January 19th, 2018 at 11:02:23 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 | Here is Jet Blue's response
I don't think they understood my point that I'm not asking for compensation because of the fog but because of the delay doing the math on the plane's weight. $300 in compensation was almost as much as the expense of the rooms but I doubt most of us will have a chance to fly on Jet Blue within a year. It is what it is. Time to move past it. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
January 19th, 2018 at 11:32:47 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Why? You're not going to trash Jet Blue at every opportunity (speaking of lemonade, you how terrible an airline Jet Blue is?). how about auctioning off your $50 credit you won't ever use. To try to determine the real value, of course. bids should open at 1/10th of a penny. Or work them in game reviews like "hitting the jackpot in this game is a worse bet than getting anywhere on time using Jet Blue." Seriously, didn't you take grudge-holding in school? :) Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
January 19th, 2018 at 12:23:12 PM permalink | |
boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 |
Their response is not a surprise and I think they considered your logic as they never give anything for simple weather delays. They giving you $50 is a goodwill gesture without admitted that they messed up. Quite honestly once the plane was diverted to MCO (the right call due to the go-around on the SFO attempted landing) the earliest (perfectly) you could have landed in FLL would have been 11am (airport landings reopens around 9:00). It would have taken 30 minutes to reboard, 30 minutes to do the recalculation, and then you are subject to ATC's routing and flight plan approval. You would have missed your flight anyway due to circumstances beyond JB's control. It's worth a response to ask for more but I think $300 is better than nothing. |
January 19th, 2018 at 3:12:04 PM permalink | |
beachbumbabs Member since: Sep 3, 2013 Threads: 6 Posts: 1600 | Umm. Head winds? They call them "the prevailing westerlies" for a reason. He got $50 for complaining at all, not because their agent understood anything about the complaint. The thing that WAS in JBU control was having numbers. The OTHER thing that was in JBU control was holding the leg to Aruba with at least 6 pax delayed, and probably many more, since all flights were messed up, and Mike was surrounded by angry people. The STILL OTHER thing in JBU control was allowing the pax to disembark in MCO, which meant a longer roundup and reboard even if people hadn't refused to go on to FLL. That decision doomed you, though you appreciated it at the time. That decision also further obligated their operations to hold your connecting flight. Very disappointed in them. Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has |
January 19th, 2018 at 3:30:06 PM permalink | |
OnceDear Member since: Nov 21, 2017 Threads: 11 Posts: 1504 | ^^^ This ^^^ They don't seem to have shown any regard for the complaint. A pathetic $50 each is a fob off well within the discretionary budget of the first line agent. If I were Mike, even with his enormous wealth :o) I'd press them to devote more time to making a better offer. |