After 59 years a "new to me" Star Trek episode

January 19th, 2018 at 1:32:31 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I was surprised to see a "new to me" Star Trek episode (TOS) from the third season. It was a horrible "bottle episode" called "Mark of Gideon" that made absolutely no sense.

January 19th, 2018 at 2:13:18 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
I was surprised to see a "new to me" Star Trek episode (TOS) from the third season. It was a horrible "bottle episode" called "Mark of Gideon" that made absolutely no sense.]


Funny, I knew immediately it was the one
where Kirk beams to a deserted Enterprise,
and I haven't seen the ep in 35 years.
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January 19th, 2018 at 2:43:10 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
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What is a "bottle episode"?

That title rings a bell. Might be a famously bad klinker.
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January 19th, 2018 at 2:45:18 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Funny, I knew immediately it was the one
where Kirk beams to a deserted Enterprise,
and I haven't seen the ep in 35 years.


Sometimes they seem to pull an episode for various reasons. Could be the background music went out of license, there is an "Airwolf" where I think this is the case. Or there is the MASH "Point of View" episode, shows you the view of a wounded soldier. I saw that one once and only once that I recall. It is interesting, but not very entertaining.
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January 19th, 2018 at 2:45:40 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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The plot in TV star trek was always "on the way to talking the alien or computer into destroying itself because Kirk convinces it that it is insane, he makes love a lot"
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January 19th, 2018 at 2:49:44 AM permalink
ChesterDog
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Quote: beachbumbabs
What is a "bottle episode"?

That title rings a bell. Might be a famously bad klinker.


A "bottle episode" is a cheap-to-film episode to get the show back on budget. Here's the Wikipedia article.
January 19th, 2018 at 2:50:51 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Quote: ChesterDog
A "bottle episode" is a cheap-to-film episode to get the show back on budget. Here's the Wikipedia article.


Thanks, Chester. I've never heard of that.
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January 19th, 2018 at 4:10:57 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ChesterDog
A "bottle episode" is a cheap-to-film episode to get the show back on budget. Here's the Wikipedia article.


The article mentions three "bottle episodes" that have become popular. "The Mark of Gideon" is not one of them.


One of the most famous "bottle episodes" was the "Chinese Restaurant" episode of Seinfeld (Broadcast date: 23 May 1991).


The Guest Stars have almost no lines, and there are no scene changes. Kramer is absent (his only show he missed):
James Hong....................... Bruce
David Tress...................... Mr. Cohen
Judy Kain........................ Lorraine
Kate Benton...................... Woman on Phone (also in The Pez Dispenser)
Michael Mitz..................... Man on Phone (also in The Puffy Shirt)
Kendall McCarthy................. Man

Restaurant Manager (Bruce): How many?
Bruce: Four. It'll be five, ten minutes.(guy on phone just turns the other way without answering)
Bruce: Lashbrook(sp?), 4!
Man: Oh, Excuse me.
Bruce: What's your name?(Bruce starts talking to a Chinese woman in Chinese)
Bruce: No, no, they were here before. Keckitch(sp?), 2!(as George reaches for the phone, a woman snatches it and starts dialing)
Woman at phone: Where? I didn't see you.
Woman: Well I won't be long.
Woman: Well if you were here first, you'd be holding the phone.(guy on phone approaches George)
Guy: Hey, sorry I took so long.
Mr. Cohen: Hey, what stinks in here?
Mr. Cohen: Well, I've been looking for a better place.(Bruce laughs)
Bruce: Better place... Want a table?
Mr. Cohen: No, just bring me a plate and I'll eat here.
Bruce (laughing): Give him a plate and you eat here... Come on, I give you a table.
Bruce: Oh no, Mr. Cohen always here.
Bruce: Oh, Mr. Cohen, very nice man. He live on Park Avenue.(woman in stripes approaches Jerry)
Lorraine: Hello, Jerry!
Lorraine: How is everything?
Lorraine: Oh, working hard. And you?
Lorraine: You haven't been around in a while.
Lorraine: You should come by.
Lorraine (shaking her hand): Lorraine. Catalano.
Lorraine: Well it was nice seeing you, Jerry. And nice meeting you. (she leaves)
Bruce: What is your name? (he turns the page over the money)
Bruce: Yes, we have sea-bass dinner tonight, very fresh.(Bruce shrugs and takes it)
Bruce: Dennison, 4! (goes over to 4 ladies) Your table is ready.
Bruce: Your name?
Bruce: Yeah, Seinfeld 4!
Bruce: Relationships are difficult. It's very hard to stay together-
Bruce: Oh. In about five, ten minutes.
Bruce (holding a phone): Cartwright?
Bruce: Cartwright?
Bruce: Yeah, I just got a call. I yell 'Cartwright! Cartwright!', just like that. Nobody came up, I hang up.
Bruce: Yes, yes, that's it. Nobody answered.
Bruce: Yeah, yeah. I tell her you not here, she said curse word, I hang up.
Bruce: Seinfeld, 4?
January 19th, 2018 at 4:47:18 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Yeah, I noticed that station is playing more season 3 episodes, and I saw one earlier this year that I don't remember seeing before.

I think there is a reason why these serial repeat stations tend not to show many season 3 shows, and I can see how they contributed to the demise of the show. Some of them were pretty awful!
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