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Shutdown
| January 20th, 2018 at 1:40:45 PM permalink | |
| boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 |
Oh good God. Let me quote 2013 when Obama shut down and we can reverse the quote: "Correct, because he has to deal with Republicans whose MAIN mission is to see Obama fail, NOT to serve the American people. If you put in a lie detector on the Reps voting to shutdown, and asked them if making Obama look bad was their primary motive, it would be 100% yes. Not a one of them is doing this because it is good for American citizens. Some may be doing this because it is good for hospitals, healthcare providers, and pharmaceutical companies, though." Two wrongs don't make a right. |
| January 20th, 2018 at 1:51:27 PM permalink | |
| boymimbo Member since: Mar 25, 2013 Threads: 5 Posts: 732 |
DACA recipients have social security numbers and pay taxes. They are here legally (under the DACA program which expires). The parents are not. If they are working, they are doing so illegally, and are not paying taxes and their employers are also breaking the law too. To be honest, I would let the DACA recipients stay, deport the parents, and see what happens. Perhaps if you give DACAs a LPR (Green Card) then they can migrate their parents back in after a mandatory 5 year penalty (currently existing under INA 212.9) and then subject to the same wait times as everyone else (7 years) who applies under the category. I don't know how fiberal that approach is. |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 12:32:00 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | Well, that was a whole lot of sound and fury signifying one snow day for part of the federal government. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 12:36:48 PM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12506 |
The term "nothing burger" gets thrown around a lot, but this shutdown was a true nothing burger. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 12:44:37 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
18 voted against it today, which means the whole Dem side caved. They must have got an earful from home over the weekend. It's a good thing, because Trump was in it for the long haul. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 1:08:26 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | or the whole dem side got out of it as much as they could expect, such "receiving a commitment from Republicans to hold a vote on immigration legislation" "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 1:23:43 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4170 |
Thanks for the info. I was pretty ignorant I guess. If we have been making it legal for the DACA kids to be here, I think now changing course and making it illegal is wrong. So I'll agree with you; deport the crime committing (by coming here ILLEGALLY) parents, let the "legal" DACA people stay. |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 1:25:29 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4170 |
I don't think they caved at all. They got an agreement from the Republican majority that a DACA bill will be next up. That is called compromise from both sides. Sort of the way it is supposed to work. |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 1:38:22 PM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | How did people that came here illegally, [Dreamers] become legal? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| January 22nd, 2018 at 1:40:43 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4170 |
As i said, I'm no expert, but I believe there are simple forms they had to fill out, and under DACA became legal. They had to prove their age and when they arrived, I think. |