Stockton UBI experiment
January 23rd, 2018 at 12:59:38 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18755 |
No one is saying this will work, but if big tech companies are seeing this problem already happening, somebody has to start trying something. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/this-city-will-give-poorest-dollar500-a-month-no-strings-attached/ar-AAv4WVb?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp&ffid=gz You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
January 23rd, 2018 at 1:14:08 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Many big tech companies are notorious for underpaying or even outright scamming their employees (calling them "independent contractors" changes nothing). This is so also of big companies in general. So perhaps they are trying to outsource much of their low-skilled and unskilled labor to the government.
Big tech company level of competence (autocorrect, spellcheck) Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
January 23rd, 2018 at 8:55:04 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | NPR did a soundbite on employment. Plenty of work, just no money and always a 'temp' or some category that means no job security. The impetus for a flat minimum is often that if you replace all the social workers and all the paperwork and grants you actually save money so rather than make someone jump thru hoops just give them their checks. A lot of places are seeing gentrification, yuppies, a few high wage employers but marginal employees have to flee further out for affordable housing which destabilizes school systems and the general workforce. |
October 13th, 2018 at 8:48:50 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Anti capitalist nyc school declares ubi an enslaving infusion of government money that will only feed uber's coffers as uber bleeds suppliers, drivers and riders and cash strapped ubi receivers merely continue to feed the money to uber and other digital companies |
October 13th, 2018 at 8:52:27 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Recent major warehouse used robots to replace 90 percent of its workforce, so some of this stuff may be serious. |
October 14th, 2018 at 5:12:24 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
Warehouse and factory automation has been going on for generations. Heard it all before, yet at this moment the biggest problem is getting people OFF assistance and to a job. The President is a fink. |
December 23rd, 2018 at 10:33:17 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | basic income trial is ending in Finland but small pilot trial is starting in Germany. |
December 28th, 2018 at 2:22:44 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | the major fear is a bunch of well-off people freeloading but in reality its the paper shuffling social workers who are the leeches. |
December 28th, 2018 at 8:07:45 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | The concept of Universal Basic Income and Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) seems linked in most people's mind. The policy paper from Britain MAKING MONEY FROM MAKING MONEY: SEIGNIORAGE IN THE MODERN ECONOMY constructs a simple historical counterfactual. They assume that during the 1998–2016 period, 30% of the money supply each year was held in the form of CBDC rather than commercial bank sight deposits. The phrase "sight deposits" seems to be a British term for "on demand accounts" that can be pulled with no notice or loss of interest. They estimate that government, would have saved a total of £182 billion in interest payments over the time period. At the same time, commercial bank seigniorage profits would have fallen by £141 billion. Sweden is mindful of threatening their commercial banks and they are predicting a much smaller use for their CBDC that should be issued next year. If CBDC were developed, it might be easier to disperse a UBI |
March 4th, 2021 at 9:17:19 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18755 | Results are in.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |