If RBG dies

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July 13th, 2018 at 12:17:56 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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There is no way congress is going to approve a conservative judge and leave only Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan as the only liberal judges. If that should happen I think DJT should appoint Hillary so she has to stay out of politics.

What do you think?
July 13th, 2018 at 12:24:12 PM permalink
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Quote: Pacomartin
There is no way congress is going to approve a conservative judge and leave only Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan as the only liberal judges. If that should happen I think DJT should appoint Hillary so she has to stay out of politics.

What do you think?


Is this an April Fools day thread? If Congress is still ‘Republican’ they will approve Conservative Justices that DJT nominates. Is it possible they can round up two Republican Senators to block a particular nominee? Sure. But, as BHO said, elections have consequences....
July 13th, 2018 at 12:30:14 PM permalink
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Quote: Pacomartin
There is no way congress is going to approve a conservative judge and leave only Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan as the only liberal judges. If that should happen I think DJT should appoint Hillary so she has to stay out of politics.

What do you think?


DJT would have all nine of them to the far right if he could. Right now he has the votes in Congress to get anyone through as long as he doesn't lose any Republican votes, which is a good safeguard.
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July 13th, 2018 at 12:35:45 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: SOOPOO
Is it possible they can round up two Republican Senators to block a particular nominee?


Not an April Fool's Day joke. If Kavanagh get approved there will already be a majority, and with Clarence Thomas born on 23 Jun 1948 and Breyr roughly a decade older, the odds are very high that Breyer will retire before a conservative judge does.

Why push it?
July 13th, 2018 at 1:17:27 PM permalink
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Quote: Pacomartin
There is no way congress is going to approve a conservative judge and leave only Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan as the only liberal judges. If that should happen I think DJT should appoint Hillary so she has to stay out of politics.

What do you think?


Depends
RBG passes away before NOV
We will have another conservative justice
After Nov, who knows
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July 13th, 2018 at 4:21:39 PM permalink
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Is RBG on a death watch?
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July 13th, 2018 at 7:24:56 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Is RBG on a death watch?

No, she is in remarkably good health for a woman of 85 who has been twice diagnosed with cancer. From all indications she may live to be quite old. But no judge has ever tried to remain on the court past the age of 90. It may be a lot easier to be a 90+ year old Senator.

Stephen Breyer is also age 79, and with Kennedy retiring two of the four liberal judges are the oldest.

The concern of many Democrats is that she will find she must retire while a Republican is in office.

Two men who made it past 90
Oliver Wendell Holmes retired on January 12, 1932 and he would have age 91 on March 8, 1832. Rank was #17 by time in office
John Paul Stevens retired on June 29, 2010 having turned age 90 April 20, 2010. Rank was #3 by time in office.

RBG has been diagnosed with cancer twice, but both types are in remission.

In 1999, Ginsburg was diagnosed with colon cancer; she underwent surgery that was followed by chemotherapy and radiation therapy. During the process, she did not miss a day on the bench.Ginsburg was physically weakened by the cancer treatment, and she began working with a personal trainer. Since 1999, Bryant Johnson, a former Army reservist attached to the Special Forces, has trained Ginsburg twice weekly in the justices-only gym at the Supreme Court.In spite of her small stature, Ginsburg saw her physical fitness improve since her first bout with cancer; she was able to complete twenty full push-ups in a session before her 80th birthday.

On February 5, 2009, she again underwent surgery for pancreatic cancer. Ginsburg had a tumor that was discovered at an early stage. She was released from a New York City hospital on February 13 and returned to the bench when the Supreme Court went back into session on February 23, 2009.
July 13th, 2018 at 8:16:07 PM permalink
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No, she is in remarkably good health for a woman of 85 who has been twice diagnosed with cancer.


She looks frail, but I think that a low body weight is extremely correlated to health and longevity. How many heavy people do you see make it to 85?
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July 13th, 2018 at 8:53:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
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She looks frail, but I think that a low body weight is extremely correlated to health and longevity. How many heavy people do you see make it to 85?


We don't let 90 year olds drive, babysit
little kids, or operate machinery. Yet
we let them make laws we all have to
abide by if they're 100 years old. Makes
sense to me.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 14th, 2018 at 3:18:31 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
She looks frail, but I think that a low body weight is extremely correlated to health and longevity. How many heavy people do you see make it to 85?


Here is a photo from 40 years ago, and she was pretty skinny back then.


RBG was age 60 and Stephen Breyer was age 56 when Clinton made them associate judges. While not particularly old, now 25 years later they are perceived as a thin wall that stops the SCOTUS from becoming overwhelmingly conservative.

When Clinton nominated RBG in 1993 she was replacing B White, who was the only member of SCOTUS nominated by a Democratic President.
1st term Hughes Van Devanter Cardozo (D) McReynolds Brandeis Sutherland O. Roberts Stone Butler (D)
FDR Stone (D) Black Frankfurter Byrnes Douglas Reed Jackson (D) Murphy (D)
Rutledge (D)
Truman Vinson (D) Minton Burton Clark
Eisenhower Warren Brennan Whittaker Stewart Harlan
JFK Goldberg B. White
LBJ Fortas T. Marshall
Nixon Burger Powell Blackmun Rehnquist
Ford Stevens
Carter
Reagan Rehnquist (D) Kennedy O'Connor Scalia (D)
HW Bush Souter Thomas
W Clinton Breyer Ginsburg
GW Bush J. Roberts Alito
Barack Obama Sotomayor Kagan
Donald Trump Kavanaugh Gorsuch


Age FDR 2nd term (his proposal was he could add a judge for everyone over 70.5
80.30 Brandeis
77.88 Van Devanter
75.08 McReynolds
74.94 Sutherland
74.89 Hughes
70.96 Butler
66.78 Cardozo
64.39 Stone
61.84 O. Roberts
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