Woman leaves $170,000 in cash behind at Walmart

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September 27th, 2018 at 7:09:30 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Fleastiff
In order to file a false police report about "losing" it and have her husband just happen to find it. Cops arrested each of them.


Well, that settles that.
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September 27th, 2018 at 8:11:12 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: ams288
Well, that settles that.
Sorry everyone. I guess I should have used Spoiler Tags.
September 27th, 2018 at 1:46:59 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ams288
Well, that settles that.


I think Fleastiff was just speculating as to the outcome.

Kingman AZ arrested 39-year-old Jeremiah Peacey and his 40-year-old girlfriend. Neither are related to the woman who lost the cash. The story seems to indicate that the police believe that the woman legitimately acquired the cash and legitimately left it at the store.

Many people do not realize that there is no "finders keepers" law. Even if you pick up $100 off a sidewalk, it is technically considered stealing, although in that case the police are very unlikely to prosecute.
September 27th, 2018 at 1:57:08 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: Pacomartin
...Many people do not realize that there is no "finders keepers" law. Even if you pick up $100 off a sidewalk, it is technically considered stealing, although in that case the police are very unlikely to prosecute.


I think this depends on where the thing was "lost". I recall there's some sort of salvage rights law that allows treasure hunter's to lay claim to the cargo of shipwrecks or abandoned vessels.
September 27th, 2018 at 3:07:26 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Ayecarumba
I think this depends on where the thing was "lost". I recall there's some sort of salvage rights law that allows treasure hunter's to lay claim to the cargo of shipwrecks or abandoned vessels.
Whoa there. In the UK the Crown owned if there be man or beast aboard, which is why sailors who found themselves to be shipwrecked would often hide since the locals would surely want to make certain that no man or beast was found alive. That is why sailors would try to obtain cutlasses and rally on the beach prior to the arrival of cargo looters.

Since many posters live in Florida, beware that Florida law imposes heavy penalties and obligations on would be salvors and it is often cheaper to let a wreck go than to claim salvage rights. Buying a boat in Florida for overdue storage liens does not extinguish existing liens on the vessel.
September 27th, 2018 at 3:23:29 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Pacomartin
I think Fleastiff was just speculating as to the outcome.
I think Fleastiff had better actually read those paywalled news articles instead of just the tidbit offered by Google after a search. Sorry folks.

Quote: Pacomartin
Many people do not realize that there is no "finders keepers" law.
Actually there often is it simply required turning it in to the local police and waiting out the mandatory claiming time. One teenager found a fairly large sum of money in a bag but cops felt it unlikely that anyone would show up to claim ownership of it in the following year since it also contained a loaded firearm.
September 27th, 2018 at 9:42:43 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
Actually there often is it simply required turning it in to the local police and waiting out the mandatory claiming time. One teenager found a fairly large sum of money in a bag but cops felt it unlikely that anyone would show up to claim ownership of it in the following year since it also contained a loaded firearm.


But that is not typically what is meant by "finders keepers".

If the Walmart couple had turned in the bag to the police, and the woman who reported it lost didn't have a valid argument as to where the money came from then they would have had a clean claim to the money.

I read of a man who was carrying $58K in cash to Albania. His English was not very good. He claims he knew that he had to fill out an IRS form before boarding an international flight and he intended to do so on the four hour layover in the Miami airport, but his cash was confiscated on the domestic flight. His argument about carrying cash was that it was so dangerous in Albania that if he wired the money he could be robbed at the Albanian bank.
After eight months the police still had not returned the money and they miscounted by $770 initially which in his mind was an indication that they took a gratuity.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/27/immigrant.money/
For 11 years, Pedro Zapeta, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala, lived his version of the American dream in Stuart, Florida: washing dishes and living frugally to bring money back to his home country. He put it in a duffel bag to take home. His argument was that he was given a room above the restaurant and free food. He never spent lavishly for the whole time or paid any taxes.

Zapeta said his goal in coming to the United States was to make enough money to buy land in his mountain village and build a home for his mother and sisters. He sent no money back to Guatemala over the years, he said, and planned to bring it all home at once.
September 28th, 2018 at 5:47:14 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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There is always a variance in what behavior is customary.

The elderly Japanese woman who threw some spare change into a jet engine was offering a token of good luck, but the pilot sure didn't see it that way.

The drug smugglers who were armed to the teeth in their country and on the high seas may indeed have fully intended to declare and surrender their weapons upon arrival in the Bahamas but the law there does not care. Most countries have a trash can prior to an arrival gate and the first question is always 'have you anything to declare' but in the Bahamas they simply don't do such things.

Traveling out of the country with more than ten grand is illegal but I didn't know about a domestic flight. Other countries and even the US often have bank employees who give a signal to confederates when a large sum of cash leaves the bank. Fears of being robbed at such times are reasonable as we know from quite a few casino-winnings heists.

Never paying taxes was Pedro Zapeta's mistake. Not adopting the practices of the US was his second mistake. He should have sent it to Guatemalan bank, not brought it.

It seems the woman did bring the cash to Walmart despite it being an utterly stupid thing to do. Leaving it there is incomprehensible but I do understand that leaving a kid in a hot car all day can also be but a memory lapse and a break in the day's routine. It ends marriages but it does happen. Alertness to danger varies. TSA jerks are jokes but real guards for target aircraft work a two hour shift and then take a break because after two hours alertness fades.

Idiocy abounds. Vigilance amongst criminals is more prevalent. They expect people to try to steal from them, they expect lies, they expect deception. A law abiding person can be very much a target. Some people lock their car doors ALL the time, some people run into a store to buy something and come right back out with a cup of coffee and a Danish. They do it hundreds of times but only have to lose their car once to learn their lesson.
September 28th, 2018 at 9:52:55 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
Traveling out of the country with more than ten grand is illegal but I didn't know about a domestic flight.


Traveling out of the country with more than ten grand is NOT illegal, but failing to report it is illegal.

Domestic flights don't have a specific rule, but money is frequently confiscated under different laws where cash that is deemed to be suspicious is confiscated. People have tried to say that the cash is their business and said they didn't have to answer questions, but it doesn't always work
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