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December 13th, 2018 at 12:26:37 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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In the 19th century, the English physician and philanthropist Thomas Bowdler produced a sanitized edition of 20 of the plays in 1807, called The Family Shakespeare with the "naughty bits" removed. The verb bowdlerize has been forever linked to censorship. For instance, Thomas Bowdler would leave out a prostitute called "Doll".



Quote: Wizard
I doubt he was advocating that, but making a point to the contrary.

I was told that I am very bad at sarcasm, but I honestly didn't think someone would take me seriously about rewriting a 400-year-old play to remove the misogynist bits. It's like a return to 200 years ago when the sex bits were considered offensive.
December 13th, 2018 at 2:04:25 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: rxwine
I watch old moves on TCM which have plenty of problematic content.
TCM once played three claasic movies
with One for the road, how is that going to be with the deon't drink and drive types?
December 13th, 2018 at 4:57:08 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Only the most idiotic feminists would try to ban this song. Flirting put into lyrics, it is quite beloved, really by *all* as we used to be able to say without some ass objecting. Which is what it is: play the song and some smartass somewhere will complain just to get attention. Plus an even more evil cadre who get satisfaction out of flexing their newfound muscle.

The whole business is a testimony not to the great numbers of such people who protest, but to the lack of backbone with those who would actually think they need to quit playing the song.
I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me]
December 13th, 2018 at 5:55:44 AM permalink
Wizard
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Hoping to get the feelings of somebody in favor of the ban.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
December 13th, 2018 at 6:39:52 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Quote: Wizard
Hoping to get the feelings of somebody in favor of the ban.


That won't be me. The song was written as a "meet cute" flirtation of that time, and people then understood it was in fun. How many Doris Day or Katharine Hepburn movies of the time had a similar point, before she acknowledged her interest? Probably all of them. Along with practically any other PC thing there was a small effort to point out the inappropriate sentiment in these times, then seized by the eye-roller backlash as evidence of extremism and blown into a huge thing.
Never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world; it's the only thing ever has
December 13th, 2018 at 7:49:54 AM permalink
Dalex64
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I'm not in favor of the ban.

Before this came up I had never really listened to the lyrics.

There is this Def Leopard song, Two Steps Behind, that might be considered a little stalkery. excerpted lyrics:

Walk away, if you want to
It's okay, if you need to
You can run but you can never hide

Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
Wherever you go
And I'll be there to remind you
That it only takes a minute of your precious time
To turn around
I'll be two steps behind

Take the time
To think about it
Just walk the line, you know you just can't fight it
Take a look around you'll see what you can find
Like the fire that's burnin' up inside me
Now there's a magic runnin' through your soul
But you can't have it all, no

Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
(chorus repeats)
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
December 13th, 2018 at 7:56:33 AM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Dalex64
I'm not in favor of the ban.

Before this came up I had never really listened to the lyrics.

There is this Def Leopard song, Two Steps Behind, that might be considered a little stalkery. excerpted lyrics:

Walk away, if you want to
It's okay, if you need to
You can run but you can never hide

Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
Wherever you go
And I'll be there to remind you
That it only takes a minute of your precious time
To turn around
I'll be two steps behind

Take the time
To think about it
Just walk the line, you know you just can't fight it
Take a look around you'll see what you can find
Like the fire that's burnin' up inside me
Now there's a magic runnin' through your soul
But you can't have it all, no

Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
(chorus repeats)


Once you start this process there is no end. Next it will be Roy Orbison's 'Pretty Women'
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 13th, 2018 at 8:48:35 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: Wizard
Hoping to get the feelings of somebody in favor of the ban.

If you find that person, let me know.
I am always on the look out for something new to read, listen to or watch
As soon as I hear that somebody wants to ban a song or book or movie, they go straight to the top of my reading, listening or watching list
I read the 1st Harry Potter book simply because some crazy Christians wanted it banned
Here's a Paul McCartney tune banned in the UK. I actually bought the 45 when it came out. I liked the song
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
December 13th, 2018 at 9:41:33 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: terapined
If you find that person, let me know.


I think we've found a rare topic we all agree on.

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As soon as I hear that somebody wants to ban a song or book or movie, they go straight to the top of my reading, listening or watching list


I'm curious that way too. I saw The Last Temptation of Christ only because there was so much of a protest against it. I'm quite sure it only caused more people to see it.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
December 13th, 2018 at 10:17:01 AM permalink
JimRockford
Member since: Sep 18, 2015
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Quote: Dalex64
I'm not in favor of the ban.

Before this came up I had never really listened to the lyrics.

There is this Def Leopard song, Two Steps Behind, that might be considered a little stalkery. excerpted lyrics:

Walk away, if you want to
It's okay, if you need to
You can run but you can never hide

Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
Wherever you go
And I'll be there to remind you
That it only takes a minute of your precious time
To turn around
I'll be two steps behind

Take the time
To think about it
Just walk the line, you know you just can't fight it
Take a look around you'll see what you can find
Like the fire that's burnin' up inside me
Now there's a magic runnin' through your soul
But you can't have it all, no

Whatever you do
I'll be two steps behind you
(chorus repeats)

Melissa Ethridge has a song that sounds like a scary ex girlfriend

If I can't love you
I don't want to love you
If I can't hold you
I don't want to be thinking of you
And if you don't want me
I don't want to want you
And if you won't see me
I don't know what to do
But oh keep watching you
Until I see right through
Oh I keep watching you
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
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