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Bah! Humbug!
| December 13th, 2018 at 2:57:31 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It's was never a religious holiday, it was a harvest and shortest day of the year holiday. The Xtions stole it, but never completely made it their own. Especially in N Europe where it originated, it's still mostly a pagan holiday. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| December 13th, 2018 at 4:51:18 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | How do you steal a holiday? We baptized it and made it more awesome! “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| December 13th, 2018 at 10:06:08 PM permalink | |
| KNathan Member since: Dec 9, 2018 Threads: 37 Posts: 547 | I do remember someone pointing out that the Bible said people were wearing LIGHT clothes when Jesus was born, and asked, "December 25th is in the cold Winter. How many people do you know wear light clothes when it's freezing? They should have been wearing heavy clothes. It's obvious that Jesus was born in Spring or Summer." |
| December 13th, 2018 at 10:13:20 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | I don't think winter in the Holy Land is as bad as you are imagining it. However, Jesus' birthday could very well been in the summer. However, the day around which the light starts becoming stronger and more present after a period of growing darkness fits well for the celebration of Our Savior's birth. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| December 14th, 2018 at 1:38:08 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I think most ministers simply state that Christmas is the day chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus. Most educated people know that the shortest day of the year was the subject of ritual long before Jesus. Obviously, the shortest day of the year is a bigger deal at higher latitudes. |
| December 18th, 2018 at 9:39:42 AM permalink | |
| AcesAndEights Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 6 Posts: 351 | Io, Saturnalia! "You think I'm joking." -EvenBob |
| December 18th, 2018 at 8:14:59 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | the Jews ptomoted a rather minor holday to dampen viewing America as a Christian nation. Blacks created Kwansaa out utter fiction too have black identity holiday. so stealing holidays is easy, particularly when so few calendars existed and few people could read. time was measured by feast days. |
| December 22nd, 2018 at 10:31:21 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Here is an interesting article on myth and Christianity using the works of Joseph Campbell who left the Catholic faith but then reports say returned to faith on his deathbed in a Catholic hospital. It talks about the long history of myth and its general themes all of which are incarnated in the real historical person of Jesus and the Church he founded. The Power of Myth “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| December 22nd, 2018 at 12:37:03 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I'm glad I caught this sickening Catholic Church lie. Campbell did NOT go back to the religion, far from it. His wife vehemently denies he did, and there certainly was no religious service at his funeral as there certainly would have been if he had reconverted. Because he happened to spend his last days in a Catholic hospital, the Church thinks it can get away with this charade. This is just another attempt by the lying deceitful Church to change history in it's favor. Always verify anything a minion of the Church spews forth, most likely it's a distortion or an outright lie. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| December 22nd, 2018 at 12:45:15 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Bob, all I known is that he was greatly comforted by a crucifix in his room at the hospital. You don't need religious services at your funeral to make your peace with God and be embraced by infinite love. I'm not you so I don't make up unproven historical facts. All I'm saying is that from the accounts I have seen he was greatly comforted at the end by thoughts of faith. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |