The "Four Corners" States

I wish we were kitty-corner to Mexico -- we could just put up a pole.

Quote: Ayecarumba

In your opinion, do the states that are catercorner (Utah and New Mexico; Colorado and Arizona) share a border?

Mathematicians worked on the four-color map problem from 1852 to 1976. They did not consider two regions that met in one or more places at a point as sharing a border and could be colored with a single color.

Quote: Ayecarumba

Isn't there an admission fee to visit the monument (which isn't on the actual spot)?

If you knew where it was, could you stand on the "actual" spot for free?

Only if it is not within the fenced in area, which it probably would be.

Quote: Evenbob

Why do they survey every time
a property is sold. This 2 acres
has been in my fam for 60 years,
every time property is sold around
it, they survey and results are the
same as last time. What a racket.

Quote: Evenbob

I have the book of previous owners of
this property going back to the 1860's.
Where there is survey info, it's always
the same. Why would it change. It's
just a scam so the survey companies
can charge to do it again. It should
only be done if there's a dispute.

This is usually about the title company making sure they are protected. Accepted boundaries can change over time. People use a tree or something to refer to and some day the tree gets cut down. I have seen deeds refer to things as permanent as the Atlantic Ocean at high tide to as temporary as a Model A transmission. On a deed! The most accurate way is for a surveyor to come out and stake it off.

Is it important? My sister's neighborhood had someone move the stakes or something and people put swingsets and swimming pools over the line. Ouch! Mexico complained about Rio Grande shifting over the decades and Jimmy Carter gave them a couple acres now on our side.

Hold on to that 1860 abstract. While it is way easier to do in your neck of the woods than mine, that is a rare thing for a landowner to have.

Quote: Wizard

When I lived in Baltimore I had a row home and it wasn't clear where the border in the backyard was to the neighbors. When I wanted to build a fence, I had to get a surveyor to put out stakes. I heard when a neighbor did the same, the surveyor made a mistake, by just an inch or so, but they had to remove the whole fence to shift it over that inch.

I was always advised to build a fence a few inches to a foot inside your line for this reason. FWIW lots of places in Baltimore are "land lease" not "fee simple" meaning the actual landowner might have to get involved.

Quote: Wizard

I wish we were kitty-corner to Mexico -- we could just put up a pole.

We might be better off negotiating the entrance of the border states into the USA (18% of Mexican population).
2016
3,315,766  Baja California
712,029  Baja California Sur

5,119,504  Nuevo León
3,556,574  Chihuahua
3,441,698  Tamaulipas
2,954,915  Coahuila de Zaragoza
2,850,330  Sonora

Quote: Wizard

I wish we were kitty-corner to Mexico -- we could just put up a pole.

I like that Mike. Would Mexico have to pay for the pole ;-)

Quote: Pacomartin

We might be better off negotiating the entrance of the border states into the USA

If not for slavery we probably would have absorbed all of Mexico after the War of Mexican Aggression (a/k/a Mexican War.) Mexico after the war was willing to sell lots of their land on the cheap. Amazing we did not do so as the 1800s were a once-in-history settling of lands.

Quote: AZDuffman

If not for slavery we probably would have absorbed all of Mexico after the War of Mexican Aggression (a/k/a Mexican War.) Mexico after the war was willing to sell lots of their land on the cheap. Amazing we did not do so as the 1800s were a once-in-history settling of lands.

I never heard that phrase before.

They have a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Tijuana.
The Mexican War and Lincoln’s “Spot Resolutions”

Quote: Pacomartin

They have a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Tijuana.

It makes Lincoln look like he was
9' tall.

Quote: Evenbob

It makes Lincoln look like he was 9' tall.

It's a very tall statue.

Statues of Lincoln are also in Juarez, Guadalajara, and Mexico City –and many Mexican schools are named after him.

The one in Mexico city is a copy of the famous statue in Chicago and in London.



Chicago has a statue of Benito Juarez, who was president of Mexico when Lincoln was president of the USA. Benito Juarez was an indigenous Mexican who did not speak Spanish as a child. Getting elected president of Mexico was probably about as unlikely as a free black man getting elected in the USA at the time.