Right things can POTUS do on his own
January 25th, 2019 at 7:34:29 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | The key thing that I remember about this decision was that congress refused to enact the bill, and the Clinton administration took executive action. What power does Trump have in three weeks? Can he do something like this.
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January 26th, 2019 at 3:23:14 AM permalink | |
odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5098 | I've heard it said that the people who wrote the Constitution of the US, who of course did not want to have a king, for some odd reason gave too much potential power to the President. Couldn't find anything online about that in a quick search. It's easy to find online how presidential power has evolved though. Presidents increased the power of that office by just finding out that they could do something, and would not be opposed, and the power then grows by precedence. Obama was sure going for it, and now Trump is empowered by all he did. And Clinton, as you show. It largely started with Andrew Jackson, it seems. I have been a lukewarm supporter of Trump, first because I constantly remind myself we could have had Hillary. Secondly, I find myself reacting to the way he has been treated in the mainstream press, which seems to be where Scott Adams is coming from too. However, I was really afraid he was going to fund his wall by declaring emergency powers - I think now he has been talked out of that. It would have been a huge mistake, the next Obama we will get one day ... just yet another increase in presidential power, yet another step towards that 'monarchical presidency' I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
January 26th, 2019 at 3:59:26 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Once again the operative word in the 1995 action is "bypass". The President doing something that Congress had voted down. I don't know how often that happens. By ANDREW GLASS With the Mexican peso in free fall and the Latin American nation headed toward insolvency, President Bill Clinton on this day in 1995 bypassed stiff congressional opposition to authorize a $20 billion loan to Mexico. In funding the loan, the U.S. Treasury triggered currency swaps and loan guarantees worth $20 billion. In addition, the International Monetary Fund signed an 18-month standby credit accord with the Mexican government valued at $18 billion. The Bank for International Settlements offered a $10 billion line of credit while the Bank of Canada threw short-term swaps valued at $1 billion into the pot. Clinton acted after the administration failed to get the Republican-controlled Congress to pass a $50 billion Mexican Stabilization Act. Without seeking congressional approval, the president authorized Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin to tap the department’s exchange stabilization fund. Some lawmakers accused Clinton of abusing his authority. It marked the first time the fund had been used to help stabilize a foreign currency. Clinton defended his decision by arguing that had the peso been allowed to collapse, Mexico’s economy would have crashed with major adverse consequences for the U.S. economy. “Some said we should not get involved, that the money would never be repaid, that Mexico should fend for itself,” Clinton said in 1997. “They were wrong. Today, the American people can be proud that we did the right thing by Mexico and the right thing for the United States, and the right thing to protect global prosperity.” https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/clinton-bypasses-congressional-opposition-to-authorize-20b-mexico-loan-jan-31-1995-086948 Xchange rate peso to USD Thu, Dec 1, 94 3.4400 - Ernesto Zedillo (born 1951) became President on December 1, 1994 Fri, Dec 2, 94 3.4390 Mon, Dec 5, 94 3.4410 Tue, Dec 6, 94 3.4470 Wed, Dec 7, 94 3.4520 Thu, Dec 8, 94 3.4500 Fri, Dec 9, 94 3.4540 Mon, Dec 12, 94 3.4500 Tue, Dec 13, 94 3.4570 Wed, Dec 14, 94 3.4540 Thu, Dec 15, 94 3.4610 Fri, Dec 16, 94 3.4630 Mon, Dec 19, 94 3.4662 Tue, Dec 20, 94 3.9500 Wed, Dec 21, 94 3.9970 Thu, Dec 22, 94 4.8500 Fri, Dec 23, 94 4.7000 Mon, Dec 26, 94 0.0000 Tue, Dec 27, 94 5.7500 Wed, Dec 28, 94 5.3500 Thu, Dec 29, 94 5.0000 Fri, Dec 30, 94 5.0000 Mon, Jan 2, 95 0.0000 Tue, Jan 3, 95 5.5000 Wed, Jan 4, 95 5.5500 Thu, Jan 5, 95 5.4500 Fri, Jan 6, 95 5.5000 Mon, Jan 9, 95 5.4000 Tue, Jan 10, 95 5.8000 Wed, Jan 11, 95 5.7500 Thu, Jan 12, 95 5.6500 Fri, Jan 13, 95 5.3500 Mon, Jan 16, 95 0.0000 Tue, Jan 17, 95 5.2700 Wed, Jan 18, 95 5.2900 Thu, Jan 19, 95 5.6800 Fri, Jan 20, 95 5.7000 Mon, Jan 23, 95 5.7600 Tue, Jan 24, 95 5.8000 - President Clinton State of Union address (If we want to safeguard America's borders, then we must pass the stabilization program). Wed, Jan 25, 95 5.7000 Thu, Jan 26, 95 5.6600 Fri, Jan 27, 95 5.6800 Mon, Jan 30, 95 6.5000 Tue, Jan 31, 95 5.8200 - President authorizes loan unilaterally without congressional approval Wed, Feb 1, 95 5.5100 Thu, Feb 2, 95 5.4700 Fri, Feb 3, 95 5.3600 Mon, Feb 6, 95 5.3800 Tue, Feb 7, 95 5.3500 Wed, Feb 8, 95 5.3700 Thu, Feb 9, 95 5.5500 Fri, Feb 10, 95 5.6500 Mon, Feb 13, 95 5.6000 Tue, Feb 14, 95 5.7700 Wed, Feb 15, 95 6.0300 Thu, Feb 16, 95 6.0900 Fri, Feb 17, 95 5.8200 Mon, Feb 20, 95 0.0000 Tue, Feb 21, 95 5.4400 Wed, Feb 22, 95 5.9300 Thu, Feb 23, 95 5.6900 Fri, Feb 24, 95 5.8400 Mon, Feb 27, 95 6.0600 Tue, Feb 28, 95 5.9700 Wed, Mar 1, 95 5.9600 Thu, Mar 2, 95 5.9700 Fri, Mar 3, 95 6.0600 Mon, Mar 6, 95 6.6000 Tue, Mar 7, 95 6.9000 Wed, Mar 8, 95 6.8200 Thu, Mar 9, 95 7.6000 |
January 26th, 2019 at 6:16:33 AM permalink | |
odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5098 | So why doesn't Trump use this as precedence for doing whatever he wants? I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
January 26th, 2019 at 6:54:40 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
That is basically my question. Both President's claim they are trying to "safeguard America's borders" with their Acts. In 1995 SOU address President Clinton appealed to Congress to pass the Act to authorize the money. A few days later Congress said NO, but Clinton did it anyway a week later. It wouldn't have mattered if he vetoed the decision because there were enough Republicans in the House that they could probably have over-rode his veto. Remember in 1995 Democrats had controlled the House for 29 of the previous 31 congresses. But the Republicans won the historic 1994 election. I do not know if the courts weighed in on the matter. It would be funny if DJT quotes Bill Clinton's comments made in 1995: "We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."
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