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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4256 | Quote: AZDuffman Quote: Gandler I don't know anything about Ferrari, nor do I think I have mentioned them.
I don't have a problem with licensing.
You are missing the point, its the blatant lies that everyone knows are lies, but people still believe them... :
"Greatest Builder of All Time" (Hardly even a builder),
"I wrote the best book of all time" (Ghostwritten)
"Largest inauguration crowd of all time" (Factually wrong)
"I have never declared bankruptcy" (Technically true, but highly misleading, his companies did on his orders routinely)
"I know tech better than anyone" (Meanwhile in his second great book, ""Today the computer and technology industries are hot, but that doesn't mean that they won't cool off quickly. It just seems to me that they are overheated, and competition is strong. When I read about all of the different companies producing new computers by the thousands, it seems like a very tough business to me. But then, I don't even know how to turn on a computer ." )
-To be fair he did not actually write the book (something else he lies about). But do you really believe that he knows more about tech than anyone?
He exaggerates and lies regularly.
As for Bankruptcy, I have no idea what case you are referring or who that is.
But, no, unless you intentionally lied on financial forms (which Trump may have, cases were settled out of court...), you should not go to jail for Bankruptcy... But, it should also not be praised, especially when somebody does it routinely because they are terrible at managing companies.....
There is a reason he could not get a legitimate loan for the Taj Mahal, because reputable lenders knew it would go under..... And, they were right..... It was built with bonds (terrible rate bonds...) The Netflix Documentary on Trump's early life does a great unbiased coverage of this....
You are aware that many casinos were built with junk bonds and they were traditionally hard to finance are you not? Watch “Casino” if you have not. I really do not care if a guy exaggerates. He has plenty to brag about. Self made man built a billions dollars brand. But you think that is bad why again? Lincoln was just one of several POTUS to have went bankrupt. It means Trump was out in the real world making things happen not living in government or university. That is a good thing.
Most corporate casinos were not built with Junk Bonds..... Self-made is a loose term, he received money and business from his father (the just a million dollar loan is another lie by the way....). Which is fine, but not self-made. Also, its not just exaggerations, its flat out lies, which you seem to not accept when they are blatantly incorrect (sometimes even contradicted by himself...) I have no problem with business owners. I have a problem with Trump, he lies, abuses people, and is not a good leader. Again, I don't really care about him/his company going bankrupt (other than his lies on it...), but it is an example to show he uses government when it is convenient for him (bankruptcy protection, and eminent domain for private for-profit businesses land acquisition....) He is not some principled free-market person, he constantly uses legal systems to bolster his business. |
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| DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 51
Posts: 4961 | Quote: Gandler
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He is not some principled free-market person, he constantly uses legal systems to bolster his business.
Only a fool would not use all legal avenues to build their business. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
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| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 18204 | Quote: Gandler Quote: AZDuffman Quote: Gandler I don't know anything about Ferrari, nor do I think I have mentioned them.
I don't have a problem with licensing.
You are missing the point, its the blatant lies that everyone knows are lies, but people still believe them... :
"Greatest Builder of All Time" (Hardly even a builder),
"I wrote the best book of all time" (Ghostwritten)
"Largest inauguration crowd of all time" (Factually wrong)
"I have never declared bankruptcy" (Technically true, but highly misleading, his companies did on his orders routinely)
"I know tech better than anyone" (Meanwhile in his second great book, ""Today the computer and technology industries are hot, but that doesn't mean that they won't cool off quickly. It just seems to me that they are overheated, and competition is strong. When I read about all of the different companies producing new computers by the thousands, it seems like a very tough business to me. But then, I don't even know how to turn on a computer ." )
-To be fair he did not actually write the book (something else he lies about). But do you really believe that he knows more about tech than anyone?
He exaggerates and lies regularly.
As for Bankruptcy, I have no idea what case you are referring or who that is.
But, no, unless you intentionally lied on financial forms (which Trump may have, cases were settled out of court...), you should not go to jail for Bankruptcy... But, it should also not be praised, especially when somebody does it routinely because they are terrible at managing companies.....
There is a reason he could not get a legitimate loan for the Taj Mahal, because reputable lenders knew it would go under..... And, they were right..... It was built with bonds (terrible rate bonds...) The Netflix Documentary on Trump's early life does a great unbiased coverage of this....
You are aware that many casinos were built with junk bonds and they were traditionally hard to finance are you not? Watch “Casino” if you have not. I really do not care if a guy exaggerates. He has plenty to brag about. Self made man built a billions dollars brand. But you think that is bad why again? Lincoln was just one of several POTUS to have went bankrupt. It means Trump was out in the real world making things happen not living in government or university. That is a good thing.
Most corporate casinos were not built with Junk Bonds..... Self-made is a loose term, he received money and business from his father (the just a million dollar loan is another lie by the way....). Which is fine, but not self-made. Also, its not just exaggerations, its flat out lies, which you seem to not accept when they are blatantly incorrect (sometimes even contradicted by himself...) I have no problem with business owners. I have a problem with Trump, he lies, abuses people, and is not a good leader. Again, I don't really care about him/his company going bankrupt (other than his lies on it...), but it is an example to show he uses government when it is convenient for him (bankruptcy protection, and eminent domain for private for-profit businesses land acquisition....) He is not some principled free-market person, he constantly uses legal systems to bolster his business.
CET is built on junk bonds. Do you know what the term means? What casino was not built on credit? Ben Siegel’s Flamingo maybe. He got some money and made way more money. That qualifies as self made. You do not have to start as homeless to qualify as self made. So he uses the law as it was intended. Good for him. The USA needs more men like him and none like Bernie. The President is a fink. |
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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4256 | Quote: AZDuffman Quote: Gandler Quote: AZDuffman Quote: Gandler I don't know anything about Ferrari, nor do I think I have mentioned them.
I don't have a problem with licensing.
You are missing the point, its the blatant lies that everyone knows are lies, but people still believe them... :
"Greatest Builder of All Time" (Hardly even a builder),
"I wrote the best book of all time" (Ghostwritten)
"Largest inauguration crowd of all time" (Factually wrong)
"I have never declared bankruptcy" (Technically true, but highly misleading, his companies did on his orders routinely)
"I know tech better than anyone" (Meanwhile in his second great book, ""Today the computer and technology industries are hot, but that doesn't mean that they won't cool off quickly. It just seems to me that they are overheated, and competition is strong. When I read about all of the different companies producing new computers by the thousands, it seems like a very tough business to me. But then, I don't even know how to turn on a computer ." )
-To be fair he did not actually write the book (something else he lies about). But do you really believe that he knows more about tech than anyone?
He exaggerates and lies regularly.
As for Bankruptcy, I have no idea what case you are referring or who that is.
But, no, unless you intentionally lied on financial forms (which Trump may have, cases were settled out of court...), you should not go to jail for Bankruptcy... But, it should also not be praised, especially when somebody does it routinely because they are terrible at managing companies.....
There is a reason he could not get a legitimate loan for the Taj Mahal, because reputable lenders knew it would go under..... And, they were right..... It was built with bonds (terrible rate bonds...) The Netflix Documentary on Trump's early life does a great unbiased coverage of this....
You are aware that many casinos were built with junk bonds and they were traditionally hard to finance are you not? Watch “Casino” if you have not. I really do not care if a guy exaggerates. He has plenty to brag about. Self made man built a billions dollars brand. But you think that is bad why again? Lincoln was just one of several POTUS to have went bankrupt. It means Trump was out in the real world making things happen not living in government or university. That is a good thing.
Most corporate casinos were not built with Junk Bonds..... Self-made is a loose term, he received money and business from his father (the just a million dollar loan is another lie by the way....). Which is fine, but not self-made. Also, its not just exaggerations, its flat out lies, which you seem to not accept when they are blatantly incorrect (sometimes even contradicted by himself...) I have no problem with business owners. I have a problem with Trump, he lies, abuses people, and is not a good leader. Again, I don't really care about him/his company going bankrupt (other than his lies on it...), but it is an example to show he uses government when it is convenient for him (bankruptcy protection, and eminent domain for private for-profit businesses land acquisition....) He is not some principled free-market person, he constantly uses legal systems to bolster his business.
CET is built on junk bonds. Do you know what the term means? What casino was not built on credit? Ben Siegel’s Flamingo maybe. He got some money and made way more money. That qualifies as self made. You do not have to start as homeless to qualify as self made. So he uses the law as it was intended. Good for him. The USA needs more men like him and none like Bernie.
No, I guarantee eminent domain was not designed for Limo Parking lots.... Anyway, you say that like Trump and Bernie are the only two extremes. Most Americans don't like either.... |
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| DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 51
Posts: 4961 | Quote: Gandler
Anyway, you say that like Trump and Bernie are the only two extremes. Most Americans don't like either....
Sadly, I think you are wrong. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4256 | Quote: DRich Sadly, I think you are wrong.
I mean polling seems to indicated such. Bernie is getting Dominated by Senator Biden, and Trump could not even win the popular vote against Clinton (and his approval polls are low 40s). Neither is anywhere close to popular with 50% of Americans. |
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| RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012
Threads: 8
Posts: 2501 | AOC needs to work on her math. She believes that the Bernster was cheated out of a win in Michigan by voter suppression. Her belief just doesn't work out because everyone in line got to vote (there is a valid complaint about the wait times; that is the fault of local election officials) and there is no way the couple of hundred thousand votes he lost by were suppressed. |
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| Mission146 Administrator
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 23
Posts: 4147 | Quote: Evenbob We have an Amazon warehouse opening
here this summer. Over 1000 new jobs,
the community is thrilled. Where does
Airhead Cortez think tax money comes
from, Pluto?
She's an embarrassment to every Economics major in the world. Everything that she says, in one fashion or another, makes us all look like total morons. Her degree should be revoked and every business-oriented grade changed to an F. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
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| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 18204 | Quote: Mission146 She's an embarrassment to every Economics major in the world. Everything that she says, in one fashion or another, makes us all look like total morons. Her degree should be revoked and every business-oriented grade changed to an F.
And the school should lose its accreditation. How do they graduate someone that bad? The President is a fink. |
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| Mission146 Administrator
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 23
Posts: 4147 | Quote: AZDuffman And the school should lose its accreditation. How do they graduate someone that bad?
No idea, but it's Boston University. Probably not their fault. Likely she got her degree to give the appearance of credence to her positions, so she may well have passed the classes legitimately enough, even though no economics professor would even contemplate teaching you half of the stuff that comes out of her mouth. Revoking her degree will be sufficient. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
