Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Follies

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July 19th, 2022 at 2:30:08 PM permalink
Gandler
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Apparently AOC is part of a bipartisan effort, including Gaetz as an example, to force Biden to have Congress approve of any US troop activity in the Ukraine. The left doesn’t trust Biden. The right doesn’t trust Biden. There must be a few Americans remaining that do trust Biden. I just don’t know any of them….


The extremes in both parties tend to do this. Gaetz did the same thing to limit Trump's response to Iran.

The extreme left and the extreme right are very much in favor of extreme oversight of foreign interventions which is highly problematic. This is one area that there is too much regulation.

While Congress is needed to officially declare war, the President has (or should) a lot of options to do other military activities. AOC and Gaetz were wrong when they tried to stop Trump on Iran, and the are wrong now.
July 19th, 2022 at 3:40:24 PM permalink
terapined
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Too busy becoming a star. It works for some. Her constituents are the only ones who can do anything about it.

We are too soft to toss bums out of office. We like “our” bum.

I like AOC a lot
She is a star
Just look at right wing news
It's like EF Hutton
AOC speaks, right wing news listens and reports
Too me, she is just one vote and a house vote at that
Really no power but right wing media hangs on her every word
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July 19th, 2022 at 3:59:27 PM permalink
missedhervee
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She's an attention whore, but that is a bonafide occupational qualification for her ilk.

Bah.
July 19th, 2022 at 4:30:16 PM permalink
terapined
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She's an attention whore, but that is a bonafide occupational qualification for her ilk.

Bah.

Because she knows right wing news is watching
She is only a star because of right wing news
They can't get enough of her
The reality is editors and owners of right wing news absolutely adore her. She is very valuable. She brings in eyeballs. She is a huge monetary asset to right wing news.
Just look at who started this thread, a righty:-)
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March 3rd, 2023 at 11:30:00 AM permalink
terapined
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It was a real bad deal
AOC is a hero
Its as bad as cities using taxpayer dollars to pay for a stadium
Its socialism to give Amazon 3 billion in tax breaks
I believe in capitalism. Companies need to succeed or fail without govt help

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/we-were-right-aoc-takes-a-victory-lap-as-amazon-halts-its-second-headquarters-project-near-dc/ar-AA18bVqt?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=bc2c98d47d4943c7804a02e82a5254b5&ei=30
But Ocasio-Cortez, who was elected to a third term in 2022, has maintained that Amazon's "second headquarters" deal would have hurt Queens residents who were already struggling with the painful effects of gentrification. And now, she is taking a victory lap after reporting from Bloomberg News' Matt Day that Amazon was "pausing construction" on its "sprawling second headquarters" near Washington, D.C. at a time when the e-commerce giant is seeing its "deepest-ever jobs cuts."
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March 3rd, 2023 at 11:46:11 AM permalink
Mission146
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She's not wrong, but she's also not right.

AOC, "Not being wrong," about something is probably the best you'll ever get from me. The best way to tank rents in an area would be for the Workforce Participation Rate to be 0%. You could probably squat anywhere you wanted to if you were in an area with no jobs in any direction for 100 miles.

So, yeah, a drastic increase in jobs in a particular area will, in fact, increase the market demand for residential in that area, which thereby would cause the rents to go up---one would assume. That's how supply and demand usually works, anyway.

On the other hand, you're refusing jobs that seem to pay reasonably well as well as a potential influx of local and state taxes.

So, it's kind of a pick your poison. My tendency is to think you take the jobs and just see what happens. If everywhere refused new businesses/business locations out of fear that it would increase the cost of residential, then we just wouldn't have any new businesses or locations anywhere.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
April 14th, 2023 at 6:20:36 PM permalink
ams288
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AOC is (rightfully) taking a victory lap tonight RE: Amazon HQ:

Quote:
Amazon is postponing much of HQ2 in Arlington VA and many of its new hires there are still working largely remote, yet it's about to collect its first tranch of $152 million in taxpayer subsidies from the state of Virginia.


Quote: @AOC
Shout out to all the folks who promised that this outcome would never happen and implied that those of us who fought to protect working people in NYC from getting fleeced by Amazon were “economically illiterate.”

I look forward to your next analysis! 🙂
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
April 15th, 2023 at 3:01:08 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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So, yeah, a drastic increase in jobs in a particular area will, in fact, increase the market demand for residential in that area, which thereby would cause the rents to go up---one would assume. That's how supply and demand usually works, anyway.

On the other hand, you're refusing jobs that seem to pay reasonably well as well as a potential influx of local and state taxes.

So, it's kind of a pick your poison. My tendency is to think you take the jobs and just see what happens. If everywhere refused new businesses/business locations out of fear that it would increase the cost of residential, then we just wouldn't have any new businesses or locations anywhere.


Yes, you take the jobs. Really, what kind of person says, "we do not want a good economy because it makes prices go up!" Not wanting the extra traffic might be one thing. A place about 5 miles from my house was a finalist for that HQ. I felt mixed. On one hand, traffic. OTOH, the rent I could collect would have been very, very nice. But who just says "keep out new business!"??

Gentrification issues have their own thread here so I will not get too far down that road here. Except to say I see it as a mostly good thing. Instead of going out out and out to new suburbs the old neighborhoods come back. Instead of having government programs to fight blight we get people doing it on their own with both new businesses and fixing up the houses they buy.

To want fewer businesses so the area stays poor and affordable? Well, that is the same mentality of people who do not want more hours at work because it "screws up" their EIC refund.
The President is a fink.
April 15th, 2023 at 5:25:59 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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I think she's mostly about the 99% versus the 1%.

That can be scientifically proven.

But if she bases her value on "green", she'll eventually lose because it opposes the 99%.



The 1% is a major issue, even for conservatives like me.

It's about 4,000,000 rich folks, that are a protected class.

They control the politics and practically everything else.


So the first thing is defining who they are and then going after "how" they got there (not the persons).

In short, it's the bankers that are middlemen between the government and the people.

They get a cut of every cross-currency transaction across the world that is bought or sold in dollars.


The USA should get the cut, not the bankers.

That cash could be used to bring the bottom up from poverty.


So OC is right in principle, but just either doesn't understand the greater picture or is too scared to enter a war with them, etc.

The money to help the poor is already there.
April 15th, 2023 at 6:04:59 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Here is a simple example how the bank scam works:


When poor people enter our country illegally by crossing the border, they eventually get jobs so they can provide a livelihood.

They get a few paychecks, then they want to send some money back to their native country, so they go to a local service.

If they don't have a bank account, they'll pay about a 16% fee to transfer their dollars.

If they have a bank account, it's less, but the bank will change a conversion fee on top of the bid and ask price difference.

So the bank can make the market spread plus the fee on top.



The USA can lower the fee and not only capture the spread.


So naturally, a banker would want the borders open.

But any policy that encourages cross-currency fees, like trade with China, is a banker scam.
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