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October 23rd, 2019 at 9:48:07 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Credibility shot. They do, by a large factor.



Actually I would stop associating around him. This is the way you talk when you are 19 or 20. After that you start to talk about things of more interest. Uncommitted sex should equal out among men and women, unless you are counting gay male sex.

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It has been discussed here before. Islam is about Islam, not social conservatism. I know zero social conservatives who advocate stoning a woman for being raped. It is a dangerous religion and if you want to discuss that please make a new thread.


On the whole that is simply untrue if you average it out:



straight and gay men both are within .01

More gay men have 4+ partners per year, but more gay men also have 0 sex per year.....

Straight women have significantly less sex per year as discussed. But, men are roughly similar, the level of partners has some variance. But, overall it is pretty close....

You also have to factor in married versus unmarried, gay men are less likley to be married from 18-35, so married straight men generally are stuck with 1 sex partner every 12 months. Which is why straight men have significantly higher "1 partner last 12 months" than any other group (except straight women).
October 23rd, 2019 at 12:16:18 PM permalink
rxwine
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You’d think merit based employment was important to conservatives. But not when it comes to certain prejudices like women in the military, guess not.

If someone tells you they can’t work with certain people, you get rid of the person who says that, not the person who is willing to do the job.

And the resistance is exactly Like Islam and just like Church of Christ people I met in college who felt women and men should not sit together. And like Mike Pence who can’t be alone with a woman.
They are the problem.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
October 23rd, 2019 at 2:16:14 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: rxwine
You’d think merit based employment was important to conservatives. But not when it comes to certain prejudices like women in the military, guess not.

If someone tells you they can’t work with certain people, you get rid of the person who says that, not the person who is willing to do the job.

And the resistance is exactly Like Islam and just like Church of Christ people I met in college who felt women and men should not sit together. And like Mike Pence who can’t be alone with a woman.
They are the problem.


I guess I was the problem. Towards the end of my career if I had to reprimand a (female) nurse there is NO WAY it would happen with just the two of us alone. If it was a (male) nurse I would consider doing it alone. Now that I think about it, I have this financial guy that has come to my house for around a half hour a few times over the last month or two. If "he" was a "she" I would not have set it up so just the two of us were alone. I think I'm smart, not "the problem"!
October 23rd, 2019 at 2:21:30 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: SOOPOO
I guess I was the problem. Towards the end of my career if I had to reprimand a (female) nurse there is NO WAY it would happen with just the two of us alone. If it was a (male) nurse I would consider doing it alone. Now that I think about it, I have this financial guy that has come to my house for around a half hour a few times over the last month or two. If "he" was a "she" I would not have set it up so just the two of us were alone. I think I'm smart, not "the problem"!


It's pretty standard HR policy to always have at least two people doing the reprimanding (and in some cases a neutral third party), usually Supervisor, HR Rep, and maybe a higher supervisor/admin (depending on who the reprimand came from).

This is pretty common practice just about everywhere, so you are just following the norm, it has nothing to do with gender, it covers your bases so employees cannot accuse you of being abusive or bias.

Reprimand/ counseling sessions should be scheduled to have at least two people on the "company side" of the table (preferably 3) , so there are multiple accounts of what happened.

This has nothing to do with gender, it's just fair practice.
October 23rd, 2019 at 2:26:29 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Not to contribute to the hijacking of this thread but I think you are missing the point of SOOPOO's post. Would you be comfortable with a financial guy stopping by your home alone to visit your wife or a financial woman stopping by to visit alone with a husband. I think you are trying to hard to ignore common sense in your righteous quest to treat everyone as equal, which they are. However, it makes sense for a married man like Pence not wanting to be alone with a woman. Why is that a problem?
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October 23rd, 2019 at 2:39:24 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: SOOPOO
I guess I was the problem. Towards the end of my career if I had to reprimand a (female) nurse there is NO WAY it would happen with just the two of us alone. If it was a (male) nurse I would consider doing it alone. Now that I think about it, I have this financial guy that has come to my house for around a half hour a few times over the last month or two. If "he" was a "she" I would not have set it up so just the two of us were alone. I think I'm smart, not "the problem"!


I worked in many situations where only a female was around. Was never a problem.

Guys who are going to do something improper with a female don't need a closed door either. Women are groped in public places for instance. Just takes a few seconds.

If you already expect a serious disciplinary problem doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. You are wise to have someone else within earshot at least, if not in a room.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
October 23rd, 2019 at 2:39:29 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler


On the whole that is simply untrue if you average it out:



straight and gay men both are within .01

More gay men have 4+ partners per year, but more gay men also have 0 sex per year.....


So, your own table shows gay males way more likely to have many partners per year. The "no partners" is effectively a tie. And I would wager a good part of the ">4" really means 10 or more. How many of us have not seen or heard of a gay hookup place raided by the cops? Not just bath houses. Rest areas. Local parks. It is common in that community. Just accept it.
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October 23rd, 2019 at 2:46:00 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: FrGamble
Not to contribute to the hijacking of this thread but I think you are missing the point of SOOPOO's post. Would you be comfortable with a financial guy stopping by your home alone to visit your wife or a financial woman stopping by to visit alone with a husband. I think you are trying to hard to ignore common sense in your righteous quest to treat everyone as equal, which they are. However, it makes sense for a married man like Pence not wanting to be alone with a woman. Why is that a problem?


I do have a righteous quest to treat people as equal, because they are. If somebody is qualified and a good person I don't care at all about their gender or sex preferences.

I am not married, but whenever I am in a serious relation with somebody, I have total trust for them to be alone with anyone. If I did not trust them to be alone with somebody, it would already be over...

I have never once in my life thought "oh the hot accountant is coming over I better not leave them there alone".... I just honestly don't think that way...

I don't honestly have a problem with Pence's personal policy, it's his choice, but I would have a problem if he said his wife is not allowed to meet with a friend alone. If you tell your partner they cannot go our alone, that is abuse (or at least manipulation).

I honestly don't think its common sense, if I trust myself and others, I have nothing to worry about being alone with somebody of any gender.

Now, if you are talking strictly about workplace discipline sessions (as his post was), that is a different matter, and it is prudante to not be alone for a large list of logical reasons.
October 23rd, 2019 at 2:50:25 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: FrGamble
Not to contribute to the hijacking of this thread but I think you are missing the point of SOOPOO's post. Would you be comfortable with a financial guy stopping by your home alone to visit your wife or a financial woman stopping by to visit alone with a husband. I think you are trying to hard to ignore common sense in your righteous quest to treat everyone as equal, which they are. However, it makes sense for a married man like Pence not wanting to be alone with a woman. Why is that a problem?


Does anyone know who visits their wife when they're not home?

You mean if a man gives permission for his wife to see a man for some business, she takes it as permission to have sex with the guy?

Interesting.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
October 23rd, 2019 at 3:01:43 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Quote: Gandler


On the whole that is simply untrue if you average it out:



straight and gay men both are within .01

More gay men have 4+ partners per year, but more gay men also have 0 sex per year.....


So, your own table shows gay males way more likely to have many partners per year. The "no partners" is effectively a tie. And I would wager a good part of the ">4" really means 10 or more. How many of us have not seen or heard of a gay hookup place raided by the cops? Not just bath houses. Rest areas. Local parks. It is common in that community. Just accept it.


I have honestly never seen or heard of a gay hook up place raided by cops (but I didn't live in the 50s...)

I do frequently see straight hookup places raided by cops in my own city almost every week (massage places, shady hotels that are essentially prostitution hangouts, escort services, etc....) I have honestly never seen a gay brothel raided in real life....

Rest areas and parks as hookup places? I guess I have been missing out, never heard of such a thing...

Also look at the index of the chart to see about sexual inequality. Gay and straight have similar levels of sexual inequality... Yes, it is a measurement more common for money stats, but GINI works well here for a general picture, even if it is a little bit of a strange way to measure sexual levels.
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