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June 7th, 2022 at 4:08:01 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: petroglyph
Did your family members have Covid light or Covid "kicks ass" variety?


Covid light. For most of them it was like a bad cold for a week or so. Nephew lost his sense of smell for a couple months but it came back.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
June 7th, 2022 at 12:36:41 PM permalink
kenarman
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"The observational study – “The Foegen Effect: A Mechanism by Which Facemasks Contribute to the COVID-19 Case Fatality Rate” – was published in Medicine in February 2022, authored by German doctor Zacharias Fögen.

The paper analyzed “whether mandatory mask use influenced the case fatality rate in Kansas” during the time period of August 1st, 2020 to October 15th. Kansas was used for comparison because the state allowed each of its 105 counties to decide whether or not to implement mask mandates, with 81 counties deciding against the measure.

“The most important finding from this study is that contrary to the accepted thought that fewer people are dying because infection rates are reduced by masks, this was not the case,” summarized the paper."

“Results from this study strongly suggest that mask mandates actually caused about 1.5 times the number of deaths or ~50% more deaths compared to no mask mandates.”
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
June 7th, 2022 at 12:38:46 PM permalink
kenarman
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'In April, a peer-reviewed study comparing mask usage across Europe during the pandemic found no negative correlations between mask usage and Covid-19 cases and deaths and even admitted to have found a "moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe" which "suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences."
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
June 7th, 2022 at 12:41:20 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: kenarman
"The observational study – “The Foegen Effect: A Mechanism by Which Facemasks Contribute to the COVID-19 Case Fatality Rate” – was published in Medicine in February 2022, authored by German doctor Zacharias Fögen.

The paper analyzed “whether mandatory mask use influenced the case fatality rate in Kansas” during the time period of August 1st, 2020 to October 15th. Kansas was used for comparison because the state allowed each of its 105 counties to decide whether or not to implement mask mandates, with 81 counties deciding against the measure.

“The most important finding from this study is that contrary to the accepted thought that fewer people are dying because infection rates are reduced by masks, this was not the case,” summarized the paper."

“Results from this study strongly suggest that mask mandates actually caused about 1.5 times the number of deaths or ~50% more deaths compared to no mask mandates.”


Lots of quack doctors out there, huh?
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
June 7th, 2022 at 1:05:44 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: ams288
Lots of quack doctors out there, huh?

Gobsmacked
Observational studies don't mean jack
They are right up there with alternative facts
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June 7th, 2022 at 3:58:20 PM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: ams288
Lots of quack doctors out there, huh?


So quick to dis anything that doesn't fit your views. Here is the peer review process for 'Medicine' the journal that published the paper.

"Peer Review
Peer review is an essential part of Medicine®'s decision process. All original material presented in Medicine® undergoes rigorous multi-factorial single-blinded​ peer-review by carefully selecting dedicated and knowledgeable individuals who are experts in their field.

During the review process one of Medicine®'s trusted Academic Editors are assigned the manuscript and takes responsibility for the review process. Academic Editors are asked to seek review from at least 2 external reviewers on any given manuscript.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
June 7th, 2022 at 3:59:36 PM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: terapined
Gobsmacked
Observational studies don't mean jack
They are right up there with alternative facts


You obviously don't know what an observational study is. I am not surprised.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
June 7th, 2022 at 5:02:18 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: kenarman
"The observational study – “The Foegen Effect: A Mechanism by Which Facemasks Contribute to the COVID-19 Case Fatality Rate” – was published in Medicine in February 2022, authored by German doctor Zacharias Fögen.

The paper analyzed “whether mandatory mask use influenced the case fatality rate in Kansas” during the time period of August 1st, 2020 to October 15th. Kansas was used for comparison because the state allowed each of its 105 counties to decide whether or not to implement mask mandates, with 81 counties deciding against the measure.

“The most important finding from this study is that contrary to the accepted thought that fewer people are dying because infection rates are reduced by masks, this was not the case,” summarized the paper."

“Results from this study strongly suggest that mask mandates actually caused about 1.5 times the number of deaths or ~50% more deaths compared to no mask mandates.”


I checked this on Google scholar. Literally only cited by 2.

That means it's crap.

Quote:
Google Scholar aims to rank documents the way researchers do, weighing the full text of each document, where it was published, who it was written by, as well as how often and how recently it has been cited in other scholarly literature.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
June 7th, 2022 at 5:28:57 PM permalink
rxwine
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It's always possible it's ranking will improve over time. Check back in a month, 2 months, 3 months...
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 28th, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Posts: 12422
I was on a cruise last week and I finally got Covid.

Started feeling a scratchy throat on the plane home yesterday. Took a test last night, negative.

Mild cough today. Took another test. Positive.

Very very mild symptoms thus far.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman