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January 4th, 2023 at 9:37:36 AM permalink
rquiredusername
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Right wing extremists and anti vaxxer’s aren’t mutually exclusive although plenty of people want to make believe they are. Sure there’s some overlap in the Venn diagram.
January 4th, 2023 at 9:44:16 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: rquiredusername
Right wing extremists and anti vaxxer’s aren’t mutually exclusive although plenty of people want to make believe they are. Sure there’s some overlap in the Venn diagram.


Absolutely agree!

There are lots of hippy dippy lefty anti-vaxxers…
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 4th, 2023 at 10:31:09 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: ams288
Absolutely agree!

There are lots of hippy dippy lefty anti-vaxxers…


Honestly, for most of my life anti-vaxx (Natural News types...) was a left thing, it was not until COVID-19 that the right basically became the party of anti-vaxx.

But, now the right wing has the trophy of holding the anti-science belief on all issues....

For a while anti-vaxx and GMOs was the anti-science issues of the left wing. And, now even GMOs are more of a right wing issue (thanks to Alex Jones types).
January 4th, 2023 at 12:25:26 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Gandler
Honestly, for most of my life anti-vaxx (Natural News types...) was a left thing, it was not until COVID-19 that the right basically became the party of anti-vaxx.

But, now the right wing has the trophy of holding the anti-science belief on all issues....

For a while anti-vaxx and GMOs was the anti-science issues of the left wing. And, now even GMOs are more of a right wing issue (thanks to Alex Jones types).


It probably goes back farther than 2007, but that seems to be the year it got some celebrity endorsement in the U.S. over autism.

Quote:
Since 2007, Jenny McCarthy has spoken out about vaccinations causing autism, based on her experiences with her son Evan, who is now 17 years old, who she said was diagnosed with autism after having the measles vaccination.

The myth that there's a link between autism and the measles vaccine traces back to a discredited British doctor named Andrew Wakefield, whose study has since been retracted.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
January 14th, 2023 at 5:35:43 PM permalink
Tanko
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'Pfizer Bivalent Vaccine Linked to Strokes in Preliminary Data'

'Pfizer Inc.’s bivalent shot for Covid-19 has shown a potential link to stroke in people 65 and older, according to US health officials citing preliminary data from one of several vaccine safety databases'

'Among 550,000 people 65 and older who had been vaccinated and received the Pfizer bivalent booster, 130 had strokes in the first three weeks after getting the shot, according to the CDC, and no deaths have been reported..'
January 14th, 2023 at 7:44:13 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Tanko
'Pfizer Bivalent Vaccine Linked to Strokes in Preliminary Data'

'Pfizer Inc.’s bivalent shot for Covid-19 has shown a potential link to stroke in people 65 and older, according to US health officials citing preliminary data from one of several vaccine safety databases'

'Among 550,000 people 65 and older who had been vaccinated and received the Pfizer bivalent booster, 130 had strokes in the first three weeks after getting the shot, according to the CDC, and no deaths have been reported..'


.0236363636364% chance of a stroke and 0% chance of death.

If you’re over 65.

Mortifying.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 15th, 2023 at 3:52:28 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: ams288
Quote: Tanko
'Pfizer Bivalent Vaccine Linked to Strokes in Preliminary Data'

'Pfizer Inc.’s bivalent shot for Covid-19 has shown a potential link to stroke in people 65 and older, according to US health officials citing preliminary data from one of several vaccine safety databases'

'Among 550,000 people 65 and older who had been vaccinated and received the Pfizer bivalent booster, 130 had strokes in the first three weeks after getting the shot, according to the CDC, and no deaths have been reported..'


.0236363636364% chance of a stroke and 0% chance of death.

If you’re over 65.

Mortifying.


And, what percentage of those 550,000 would have had a stroke without the vaccine?
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
January 15th, 2023 at 4:36:10 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: DRich
Quote: ams288
Quote: Tanko
'Pfizer Bivalent Vaccine Linked to Strokes in Preliminary Data'

'Pfizer Inc.’s bivalent shot for Covid-19 has shown a potential link to stroke in people 65 and older, according to US health officials citing preliminary data from one of several vaccine safety databases'

'Among 550,000 people 65 and older who had been vaccinated and received the Pfizer bivalent booster, 130 had strokes in the first three weeks after getting the shot, according to the CDC, and no deaths have been reported..'


.0236363636364% chance of a stroke and 0% chance of death.

If you’re over 65.

Mortifying.


And, what percentage of those 550,000 would have had a stroke without the vaccine?

The same
Tanko and his people are looking for the smallest speck of anything that's anti vaccine and then blowing it up into monstrous danger with flashing red lights.
It's so laughable.
This was software
A peice of data software told scientists to look at rate of strokes.
That's essentially the bombshell, a software red flag
Well they looked at the numbers and everything is normal
Tanko doesn't care the numbers are normal, it's the dismissed red flag he wants to push which in the end is meaningless.
It's all much ado about nothing
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3812618-cdc-and-fda-find-no-increased-risk-of-ischemic-stroke-for-elderly-who-get-pfizers-bivalent-booster/
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 15th, 2023 at 11:41:07 AM permalink
Tanko
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It’s a small percentage over the first 21 days, but significant enough to prompt the CDC and the FDA to call for an investigative study.

'CDC & FDA Identify Preliminary COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signal for Persons Aged 65 Years and Older'

'Following the availability and use of the updated (bivalent) COVID-19 vaccines, CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), a near real-time surveillance system, met the statistical criteria to prompt additional investigation into whether there was a safety concern for ischemic stroke in people ages 65 and older who received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.'

There's always Moderna.
January 15th, 2023 at 11:46:31 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: Tanko
It’s a small percentage over the first 21 days, but significant enough to prompt the CDC and the FDA to call for an investigative study.

Look above your post to my previous post
They investigated and found nothing
It's much ado about nothing
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"