Entertainment should reflect the audience consuming it.

Quote: rxwine

But the Japanese don't kiss, so there.

I'm never going to be able to unread that. It's not often that I'm offended as I have quite a foul mouth, (and I am NOT saying I am offended in the Forum Rules sense) but that quote safely cleared the bar.

Again, this is not a complaint in any way whatsoever. I'm an adult. It seems that some other adults are just really messed up.

Quote: Mission146

I'm never going to be able to unread that. It's not often that I'm offended as I have quite a foul mouth, (and I am NOT saying I am offended in the Forum Rules sense) but that quote safely cleared the bar.

Again, this is not a complaint in any way whatsoever. I'm an adult. It seems that some other adults are just really messed up.

You are aware you are talking about someone who instead of saying if he would date a transgender after he said there was nothing wrong with them posted a link to a porn site without suspension?

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Quote: AZDuffman

You are aware you are talking about someone who instead of saying if he would date a transgender after he said there was nothing wrong with them posted a link to a porn site without suspension?

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

What difference does whether or not he'd date a transgender person make? I wasn't calling RXWine messed up; I was saying that the people who would order the items described are messed up.

Quote: Mission146

What difference does whether or not he'd date a transgender person make? I wasn't calling RXWine messed up; I was saying that the people who would order the items described are messed up.

Well, my position is if you think transgender is normal you should have no problem having sex with one. If that thought makes a person flinch just a little bit then they do not think it is normal. When I asked people here hemmed and hawed but all who answered said "NO" when pressed. Except the one who posted a porn link.

The tie-in is that you kind of asked if that post was allowed here. I was saying he has posted worse with no problems.

Quote: AZDuffman

Well, my position is if you think transgender is normal you should have no problem having sex with one. If that thought makes a person flinch just a little bit then they do not think it is normal. When I asked people here hemmed and hawed but all who answered said "NO" when pressed. Except the one who posted a porn link.

The tie-in is that you kind of asked if that post was allowed here. I was saying he has posted worse with no problems.

I think men are normal and do not want to have sex with one.

I wasn't asking if it was allowed or trying to imply that it shouldn't be. I'm not one to expect to live my entire life without ever being offended by something.

Quote: AZDuffman

Well, my position is if you think transgender is normal you should have no problem having sex with one. If that thought makes a person flinch just a little bit then they do not think it is normal. When I asked people here hemmed and hawed but all who answered said "NO" when pressed. Except the one who posted a porn link.

The tie-in is that you kind of asked if that post was allowed here. I was saying he has posted worse with no problems.

This makes zero sense.

We all have preferences as far as sexual attraction.

You can respect the rights of transgenders to be open and free and not be sexually attracted to them....

This is not a "gotcha" like you seem to imply.... Its also far more complex than you are making it if you are talking pre-op, post-op etc.... "transgender" is a very wide category.

It is well known that most people have sexual attraction to certain races over others. It does not mean you are racist against races you are not attracted to, its just you are not sexually attracted to some more than others. Same concept with not being attracted to certain categories of trans. Generally you cannot control who you are sexually attracted to..... As long as you support the rights of people to live freely (and are not actively opposing them) it really does not matter if you find them sexually desirable or not....

Quote: Gandler

This makes zero sense.

We all have preferences as far as sexual attraction.

You can respect the rights of transgenders to be open and free and not be sexually attracted to them....

This is not a "gotcha" like you seem to imply.... Its also far more complex than you are making it if you are talking pre-op, post-op etc.... "transgender" is a very wide category.

You cannot say a transgender male to woman is like any other woman but then say you would have no attraction to one. Your actions say they are not one, which they are not.

Do I have to go over this again.

Duff believed men wouldn't have sex with transgenders because no men would be attracted to them, so I linked to a site with men having sex with transgenders so he could see for himself.

It was way better than going back and forth with him.

Quote: AZDuffman

You cannot say a transgender male to woman is like any other woman but then say you would have no attraction to one. Your actions say they are not one, which they are not.

Except I don't think that anyone is saying that, that is why people call themselves transgender versus cisgender. The reason people usually label themselves as transgender or gender-nonconforming, or non-binary (or many other labels) is to point out this very fact.

It really just comes down to respect. If somebody asks me to use certain pronouns or wants to be identified in a certain way, I have no issue with it.
You don't have to be sexually attracted to people to respect them.....

Quote: rxwine

Do I have to go over this again.

Duff believed men wouldn't have sex with transgenders because no men would be attracted to them, so I linked to a site with men having sex with transgenders so he could see for himself.

It was way better than going back and forth with him.

Do *I* have to go thru it again?

You were and are among those that think trans women are regular women.

I asked if *YOU* would go with one.

Instead of answering you posted porn as if I would watch something like that.

You never answered, so we know the answer.