SCOTUS Vacancy

September 23rd, 2020 at 4:37:08 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: aceofspades
ACB will get hammered on this by the Dems
She remarks that replacing Justice Scalia with a liberal Justice would upset the makeup of the Court
If she is nominated, I think the Dems will quote this remark and ask how replacing a liberal Justice with a conservative Justice such as herself does not upset the makeup of the Court


They would hammer her for anything. Their treatment of non-liberal justice candidates is as disgusting as it gets. They do not need a reason.
The President is a fink.
September 23rd, 2020 at 4:51:21 PM permalink
JCW09
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Good find Ace!
ACB is clearly a smart one and I have to say I would take either Nominee.
But Lagoa will be easier to confirm based on her confirmation less than a year ago by the same Senate.
"Easy" may be what is best for this nominee and Trump can save ACB for Breyer's Seat.
In the clip, ACB describes the precedent for what is about to happen with Trump's SCOTUS Nominee Confirmation.
A same party controlled Senate confirming a President's Nominee in an election year vacancy
And all kind of precedent for what happened with Garland.
A non-same party Senate not confirming a President's Nominee in an election year vacancy
Its a 2-8 historical precedent loser case for the Dems and one of those 2, Kennedy wasn't really an Election year vacancy.
The Left hates it when the rules end up playing out correctly and they don't get their way
Their reaction is to blow it all up
Eliminate the Filibuster
Pack the SCOTUS
Admit new states to the Union.
Actions that haven't occurred in 150 years for the SCOTUS & 60 years in adding states.
Changing the institutions of government for political purposes to allow a slim majority of either party to rule over a large minority
These are the things that civil wars are made of and that would truly be horrific.
Over what, an 87 year old dying that should have stepped down 7 years ago?
Blame RGB, she is the one that screwed the Dems!
It isn't the system that is getting it "wrong", the system is working as it has always worked.
If the Dems would just stop being crazy, they might actually win elections again.
They can't so they'll be on the short end of the stick in November, again!
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September 23rd, 2020 at 4:59:36 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: JCW09
If the Dems would just stop being crazy, they might actually win elections again.
They can't so they'll be on the short end of the stick in November, again!


Sounds pretty confident for the guy predicting a 269-269 EC tie. A guy from the party that has only won the popular vote once in the last 7 presidential elections.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
September 23rd, 2020 at 8:14:21 PM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: ams288
Sounds pretty confident for the guy predicting a 269-269 EC tie. A guy from the party that has only won the popular vote once in the last 7 presidential elections.


You do realize Presidents are not elected by popular vote...?
September 24th, 2020 at 4:57:51 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: aceofspades
You do realize Presidents are not elected by popular vote...?


No, I didn’t realize that!

/sarcasm
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
September 24th, 2020 at 6:53:55 PM permalink
rxwine
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(Reuters) - Democrats in of the House of Representatives will introduce a bill next week to limit the tenure of U.S. Supreme Court justices to 18 years from current lifetime appointments, in a bid to reduce partisan warring over vacancies and preserve the court's legitimacy.


The new bill, seen by Reuters, would allow every president to nominate two justices per four-year term and comes amid heightened political tensions as Republican President Donald Trump prepares to announce his third pick for the Supreme Court after the death on Sept. 18 of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, with just 40 days to go until the Nov. 3 election.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
September 25th, 2020 at 4:56:57 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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The Constitution does not expressly grant “life tenure” to Supreme Court justices.

Rather, this idea has been derived from the language that judges and justices, as noted above, “shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.”

So to reduce tenure of SCOTUS judges from life to 18 years would not require a constitutional amendment.

If a POTUS is limited to two appointments per 4 year presidential term, than what happens in 2020-2024? Does the winner replace RBG, Clarence, and Stephen or does the 18 year limit not apply to one person, or does the court temporarily reduce to 8 judges for a few years.

Clarence Thomas 28 years, 337 days
Stephen Breyer 26 years, 52 days
John Roberts 14 years, 361 days
Samuel Alito 14 years, 237 days
Sonia Sotomayor 11 years, 47 days
Elena Kagan 10 years, 48 days
Neil Gorsuch 3 years, 167 days
Brett Kavanaugh 1 year, 354 days
September 25th, 2020 at 5:21:15 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin


If a POTUS is limited to two appointments per 4 year presidential term, than what happens in 2020-2024? Does the winner replace RBG, Clarence, and Stephen or does the 18 year limit not apply to one person, or does the court temporarily reduce to 8 judges for a few years.


Can't have a long term even number. I would say they would set the terms and draw lots to see who goes when.

You still have the problem of people dying off term.

Really it is just the latest hissy fit of the Democrats when things are not going their way.
The President is a fink.
September 25th, 2020 at 12:37:53 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: AZDuffman
Really it is just the latest hissy fit of the Democrats when things are not going their way.


Actually that is not true.

Bill Clinton appointed both of his justices in his first term and GW Bush had to wait until his second term to appoint his two justices. So there was an 11-year gap from 3 Aug. 1994 until 3 Sep. 2005 (when Rehnquist died) when no judges were appointed. This was the longest gap in US history.

William Rehnquist January 7, 1972 - Nixon
John Paul Stevens December 19, 1975 - Ford
Sandra Day O'Connor September 25, 1981 - Reagan
Antonin Scalia September 26, 1986 - Reagan
Anthony Kennedy February 18, 1988 - Reagan
David Souter October 9, 1990 - George HW Bush
Clarence Thomas October 23, 1991 - George HW Bush
Ruth Bader Ginsburg August 10, 1993 - Bill Clinton
Stephen Breyer August 3, 1994 - Bill Clinton

Even though 7 out of 9 justices were appointed by Republican Presidents, there was a strong desire for more conservative judges. The idea of term limits was widely discussed during the first term of GW Bush.
September 25th, 2020 at 3:53:15 PM permalink
Tripdufan
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Quote: JCW09
Good find Ace!
ACB is clearly a smart one and I have to say I would take either Nominee.
But Lagoa will be easier to confirm based on her confirmation less than a year ago by the same Senate.
"Easy" may be what is best for this nominee and Trump can save ACB for Breyer's Seat.
In the clip, ACB describes the precedent for what is about to happen with Trump's SCOTUS Nominee Confirmation.
A same party controlled Senate confirming a President's Nominee in an election year vacancy
And all kind of precedent for what happened with Garland.
A non-same party Senate not confirming a President's Nominee in an election year vacancy
Its a 2-8 historical precedent loser case for the Dems and one of those 2, Kennedy wasn't really an Election year vacancy.
The Left hates it when the rules end up playing out correctly and they don't get their way
Their reaction is to blow it all up
Eliminate the Filibuster
Pack the SCOTUS
Admit new states to the Union.
Actions that haven't occurred in 150 years for the SCOTUS & 60 years in adding states.
Changing the institutions of government for political purposes to allow a slim majority of either party to rule over a large minority
These are the things that civil wars are made of and that would truly be horrific.
Over what, an 87 year old dying that should have stepped down 7 years ago?
Blame RGB, she is the one that screwed the Dems!
It isn't the system that is getting it "wrong", the system is working as it has always worked.
If the Dems would just stop being crazy, they might actually win elections again.
They can't so they'll be on the short end of the stick in November, again!


This same party controlling the senate angle on this cracks me up, as if this was the argument the GOP used to deny Garland the vote he deserved. No...the argument was "let the people decide who picks the next justice".

Now the argument is "we're the biggest group of hypocrites that has ever been assembled and we don't care because our supporters don't care."