SCOTUS Vacancy

October 26th, 2020 at 5:35:56 PM permalink
ams288
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She’s absolutely spot on.

Hopefully Biden will win and get to add Justices 10-13 next year.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
October 26th, 2020 at 6:16:12 PM permalink
rxwine
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lmao


No doubt he's peeling onions.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
October 26th, 2020 at 8:10:13 PM permalink
Evenbob
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I think Trump is a cyborg. He does 3
exhausting rallies, flies back to the
WH, and looks fresh as a daisy
for the Barret swearing in. And
he'll be up working till 1 am.

His old Butler says he does this
every day. When he stayed at
Mir a Lago the butler had to
stay up till 12:30 in case Trump
wanted something from the
kitchen while he worked.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 26th, 2020 at 8:51:20 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Hopefully Biden will win and get to add Justices 10-13 next year.


Historically, FDR couldn't appoint a single Supreme Court Judge his entire first term. It was one of the longest gaps since the civil war.

12 Jan 1932 ---------- last SCOTUS vacancy under President Harding
4 Mar 1933 ---------- FDR begins first term
3 Nov 1936 ---------- FDR crushes Alf Landon losing only VT and Maine and winning the popular vote by 60.8% to 36.5%
15 Feb 1937 ----------- FDR announces a controversial plan to expand the Supreme Court to as many as 15 judges,
4 Mar 1937 ---------- FDR begins 2nd term after landslide victory
2. Jun. 1937 5.39 years retire SCOTUS Willis Van Devanter appointed by Republican POTUS Taft
17. Jan. 1938 0.63 years retire SCOTUS George Sutherland appointed by Republican POTUS Harding
9. Jul. 1938 0.47 years died SCOTUS Benjamin N. Cardozo appointed by Republican POTUS Hoover
13. Feb. 1939 0.60 years retire SCOTUS Louis Brandeis appointed by Democratic POTUS Wilson
16. Nov. 1939 0.76 years died SCOTUS Pierce Butler appointed by Republican POTUS Harding
31. Jan. 1941 1.21 years retire SCOTUS James Clark McReynolds appointed by Democratic POTUS Wilson
4 March 1941 ---------- FDR begins 3rd term after landslide victory

Bottom line is FDR's plan to pack the Supreme Court was announced after a massive landslide victory. The central provision of the proposed bill would have granted the president power to appoint an additional justice to the U.S. Supreme Court, up to a maximum of six, for every member of the court over the age of 70 years and 6 months.

Members of both parties viewed the legislation as an attempt to stack the court, and many Democrats, including Vice President John Nance Garner, opposed it.

The bill was held in committee for 165 days and during that time one member of SCOTUS retired. The bill was eventually defeated, but during FDR's second term, 6 SCOTUS vacancies (2 deaths, 4 retirements) became available. Out of the 6 vacancies 4 had been appointed by Republican Presidents.

Bottom line if FDR had not been able to pack the Court after such a landslide victory, who thinks Biden would be able to if he wins?
October 27th, 2020 at 12:27:12 AM permalink
Evenbob
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What's ironic is, super socialist
FDR tried to pack the court,
was slapped down hard, and
ended up not picking a single
justice for the 12 years he was
there. It was just a fluke that
nobody retired or died. My
guess is Trump will pick two
more. Thomas is talking
about retiring, he's 73 and
Bryer is 82. They should really
make 80 the retirement age,
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 27th, 2020 at 2:19:14 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
FDR tried to pack the court, was slapped down hard, and ended up not picking a single justice for the 12 years he was there. It was just a fluke that nobody retired or died.


Age of Justices when FDR began his first term
76.3 Brandeis
73.9 Van Devanter
71.1 McReynolds
70.9 Sutherland
70.9 Hughes - 11th Chief Justice
67.0 Butler
62.8 Cardozo
60.4 Stone
57.8 Owen Roberts (only justice under age of 60 when FDR began his first term)

In 1933 those men would have been considered fairly old. FDR ended up not picking a single justice in his first 4 year term. He appointed six during his second 4 year term.

Owen Roberts for his last 1000 days was the only Justice on the Supreme Court who was not appointed (or, in the case of Stone, who had become Chief Justice, promoted) by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Owen Roberts became frustrated with the willingness of the new justices to overturn precedent and with what he saw as their result-oriented liberalism as judges. Roberts retired from the Court only 16 weeks after FDR's death and his relations with his colleagues had become so strained that fellow Justice Hugo Black refused to sign the customary letter acknowledging Roberts's service on his retirement. Shortly after leaving the Court, Roberts reportedly burned all of his legal and judicial papers.
October 27th, 2020 at 4:53:32 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Bottom line if FDR had not been able to pack the Court after such a landslide victory, who thinks Biden would be able to if he wins?


Easiest question ever! If Biden wins and Democrats take the Senate, OF COURSE the Democrats add Supreme Court Justices! It is what the Democrat Party is. ANY way it can exert power it will. They will bow to the AOC wing. Guaranteed. Anyone want to bet against me?
October 27th, 2020 at 5:02:17 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: SOOPOO
Easiest question ever! If Biden wins and Democrats take the Senate, OF COURSE the Democrats add Supreme Court Justices! It is what the Democrat Party is. ANY way it can exert power it will. They will bow to the AOC wing. Guaranteed. Anyone want to bet against me?


Fingers crossed that you’re right!
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October 27th, 2020 at 8:00:26 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: aceofspades


She’s absolutely spot on.

Hopefully Biden will win and get to add Justices 10-13 next year.



Hmmmm - if this was a Democrat Senate and Democrat President that did this (and please do not claim they wouldn't do it), and a Republican Congressman Tweeted "Expand the court" - I wonder if your reaction would be the same...
October 27th, 2020 at 8:07:36 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: aceofspades

Hmmmm - if this was a Democrat Senate and Democrat President that did this (and please do not claim they wouldn't do it), and a Republican Congressman Tweeted "Expand the court" - I wonder if your reaction would be the same...


If the Dems do win the Presidency and take the Senate, and do expand the Court (three BIG “ifs” there), I have no doubt the GOP will then add more seats next time they have the presidency/Senate.

I’m fine with that.... No more decades of only one side controlling the court. Sounds good to me.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman