The Biden Presidency 2021

April 6th, 2021 at 7:00:24 PM permalink
terapined
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I dont think Kennedy would have lived a real long life
He had severe back issues
Kind of prevents exercise which is so important to a long life
Not much exercise combined with smoking not a good combo
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
April 6th, 2021 at 7:16:23 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: kenarman
Russia took over part of the Ukraine after the 2014 Olympics on Obama's watch. Things were actually relatively quiet between Russia and Ukraine under Trump. Russia is now getting more aggressive since Trump left because they want more territory that belongs to Ukraine, all of the country if they could get it. Trump was a wild card and other countries were scared to act because they didn't know what he would do. Like it or not other countries toed the line while he was president.
If you are speaking about Crimea, Crimeans voted 70% to be part of Russia. If you are speaking about the Donbass region, Luhansk and Donestk, they have been Russian speaking for a very long time and much of their extended family's live in Russia. If Russia chose to invade and conquer Donbass or even Ukraine, they could do it rapidly. The fact that Russia isn't invading shows they don't want to administer the territory.

Watch Oliver Stones "Ukraine on Fire" https://youtu.be/LHH10jIRJmQ
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April 7th, 2021 at 4:25:05 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: Tripdufan
That 5k increase per household is an AVERAGE, not a median, obviously skewed by higher income earners. And Obama outperformed Trump in job growth the last two years of his term vs the first two of Trump's presidency....


What I quoted was the increase in average disposable income. Which is income after taxes.

You want Median.

Median real household income growth is even more impressive. For the forty years from 1979 to 2018, real income growth was stagnant. The average annual real wage increase was 4 Cents. That’s 4 cents per year. In 2019, a year after Trump’s tax cuts went into effect, Median Household Income increased a record 6.8% over the prior year.

As for outperforming Trump in job creation, mostly part time jobs were created under Obama. 94% of the jobs created during his administration, were part-time, gig, or contract jobs, Which are typically low paying and do not provide benefits.

From the Harvard/Princeton study:

“94% of the net employment growth in the U.S.economy from 2005 to 2015, appears to have occurred in alternative work arrangements.”

For the nine years between 2007 and 2016, only 2.76 million full time jobs were created.

For the three years from the start of 2017 and the end of 2019, seven million full time jobs were created.
April 7th, 2021 at 4:51:22 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: petroglyph


Obama started that war. Got a lot of people killed, and lost a third of the country to the Russians.

Now, he's at it again.

One month after Biden was installed as Obama's puppet, the Ukraine President declared their intention to take back the Crimean Peninsula, despite a 97% vote by the Crimeans, for integration into the Russian Federation.

Yesterday, he asked NATO to speed up their membership path to 'send a signal to Russia'. That would be like the Mexican President asking China to set up a military base in Mexico.

That's all the excuse Putin needs to invade.
April 7th, 2021 at 7:03:44 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: petroglyph
If you are speaking about Crimea, Crimeans voted 70% to be part of Russia. If you are speaking about the Donbass region, Luhansk and Donestk, they have been Russian speaking for a very long time and much of their extended family's live in Russia. If Russia chose to invade and conquer Donbass or even Ukraine, they could do it rapidly. The fact that Russia isn't invading shows they don't want to administer the territory.

Watch Oliver Stones "Ukraine on Fire" https://youtu.be/LHH10jIRJmQ



"The Republic of Crimea is a de facto constituent republic of Russia located on the disputed Crimean Peninsula, which was annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014, but is still internationally recognized as being part of Ukraine." That vote was Russian supervised after they annexed using military force, it do you really think it was a free vote.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
April 7th, 2021 at 10:22:08 AM permalink
Tripdufan
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Quote: Tanko
You want Median.

Median real household income growth is even more impressive. For the forty years from 1979 to 2018, real income growth was stagnant. The average annual real wage increase was 4 Cents. That’s 4 cents per year. In 2019, a year after Trump’s tax cuts went into effect, Median Household Income increased a record 6.8% over the prior year.


Yup, let's talk median income.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/trumps-state-of-the-union-address-misleads-on-median-household-income.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/15/incomes-rose-in-the-us-last-year-but-a-closer-look-reveals-little-to-cheer-about.html

I can't tell if you're being disingenuous or if you are sincere, but...

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/09/us-median-household-income-not-significantly-different-from-2017.html

I'm not going to get into jobs. You're citing a Harvard/Princeton study that includes pre Obama years and then you actually use that 94% when we were specifically talking about Obama vs Trump's record. Why are you including 4 pre-Obama years?

Regardless, the point remains. Trump had an okay economy. It wasn't the best in history and it wasn't gangbusters. It was propped up by trillions in deficit spending when he said he would cut the deficit. He said he would get 6% GDP growth. He said the tax cuts would pay for themselves. He said he would be the greatest jobs president in history and in the end, he ended up overseeing a net loss of jobs. Yet another republican who left a mess for a democrat to clean up. Rinse/repeat. Keep fighting the culture wars and misleading your voters. It's all you have. Your record sucks.

#thanksMAGA
April 7th, 2021 at 1:21:51 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: kenarman
"The Republic of Crimea is a de facto constituent republic of Russia located on the disputed Crimean Peninsula, which was annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014, but is still internationally recognized as being part of Ukraine." That vote was Russian supervised after they annexed using military force, it do you really think it was a free vote.
It was a much freer vote than the 1st generation peoples of Canada joining the Crown, or for that matter the American indigenous peoples becoming "Americans".

Crimea was Russian since the late 1700's, until 1954 when Kruschev [who was Ukrainian and Ukraine was a part of the USSR] unilaterally decided to give Crimea to Ukraine.

"Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate during the 15th to 18th century. In 1783, Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774)." wiki

Much of Crimea was already Russian speaking, as far as the election goes. I think it was the locals that ran the election. Is there some large contingent of Crimeans that are clamoring to leave Russia and join the Banderite Ukronazis? The majority of the people have spoken. Russia isn't giving up it's warm water port. If someone wants to fight about it, then there will be a fight. But firing one round from an American toward a Russian, over the whole of Ukraine, would be monumentally stupid.

Is America looking for another permanent conflict to replace Afghanistan? Don't we have enough conflicts going now? Remember what Victoria Nuland said, " 'F' the EU. This is not our fight.
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April 7th, 2021 at 4:36:06 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: petroglyph
It was a much freer vote than the 1st generation peoples of Canada joining the Crown, or for that matter the American indigenous peoples becoming "Americans".

Crimea was Russian since the late 1700's, until 1954 when Kruschev [who was Ukrainian and Ukraine was a part of the USSR] unilaterally decided to give Crimea to Ukraine.

"Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate during the 15th to 18th century. In 1783, Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774)." wiki

Much of Crimea was already Russian speaking, as far as the election goes. I think it was the locals that ran the election. Is there some large contingent of Crimeans that are clamoring to leave Russia and join the Banderite Ukronazis? The majority of the people have spoken. Russia isn't giving up it's warm water port. If someone wants to fight about it, then there will be a fight. But firing one round from an American toward a Russian, over the whole of Ukraine, would be monumentally stupid.

Is America looking for another permanent conflict to replace Afghanistan? Don't we have enough conflicts going now? Remember what Victoria Nuland said, " 'F' the EU. This is not our fight.


The Crimean's want independence as most people do. Russia needs a warm port for its southern fleet. That is the nut of the problem. Stalin relocated or massacred most of the Tarters who were the residents of the area since 1700. Like most of Europe many groups have lived their over the last 2000 years. None of that changes the fact that Russia illegally annexed the area from the Ukraine in 2014. Russia is not liable to voluntarily stop annexing territory until it recreates the Soviet Union of old. Do you need to care? That is up to you.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
April 7th, 2021 at 6:02:12 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: petroglyph
It was a much freer vote than the 1st generation peoples of Canada joining the Crown, or for that matter the American indigenous peoples becoming "Americans".

Crimea was Russian since the late 1700's, until 1954 when Kruschev [who was Ukrainian and Ukraine was a part of the USSR] unilaterally decided to give Crimea to Ukraine.

"Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate during the 15th to 18th century. In 1783, Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774)." wiki

Much of Crimea was already Russian speaking, as far as the election goes. I think it was the locals that ran the election. Is there some large contingent of Crimeans that are clamoring to leave Russia and join the Banderite Ukronazis? The majority of the people have spoken. Russia isn't giving up it's warm water port. If someone wants to fight about it, then there will be a fight. But firing one round from an American toward a Russian, over the whole of Ukraine, would be monumentally stupid.

Is America looking for another permanent conflict to replace Afghanistan? Don't we have enough conflicts going now? Remember what Victoria Nuland said, " 'F' the EU. This is not our fight.


The Crimean's want independence as most people do. Russia needs a warm port for its southern fleet. That is the nut of the problem. Stalin relocated or massacred most of the Tarters who were the residents of the area since 1700. Like most of Europe many groups have lived their over the last 2000 years. None of that changes the fact that Russia illegally annexed the area from the Ukraine in 2014. Russia is not liable to voluntarily stop annexing territory until it recreates the Soviet Union of old. Do you need to care? That is up to you.


"On March 24, Ukrainian President Zelensky, for all practical purposes, signed a declaration of war against Russia, via decree No. 117/2021. " https://asiatimes.com/2021/04/ukraine-redux-war-russophobia-and-pipelineistan/

"It certainly does not help that in early April US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, fresh from his former position as a board member of missile manufacturer Raytheon, called Zelensky to promise “unwavering US support for Ukraine’s sovereignty.”

I don't know if it's that I care so much, it just interests me? The machinations of the powerful. Pepe Escobar is an excellent reporter.

I like Pepe's last sentence, "What a nice wag-the-dog op to distract domestic public opinion from massive money printing masking a looming economic collapse. As the empire crumbles, the narrative is set in stone: it’s all the fault of “Russian aggression.” The US doesn't care what happens to a bunch of Uke's one way or other.
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April 10th, 2021 at 2:47:23 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Let's go Brandon