Socialism and Shortages

Quote: terapined

Good NYT article via yahoo showing how the GOP rails against spending in public but in reality is a spend spend party.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-rails-against-federal-spending-153709507.html

Obviously spending is only bad when it doesn't benefit your constituents.

The problems are caused by things worse than socialism. In essence, people are holding onto the past and ignoring the present as it evolves into the future. Everyone these days has an incentive to destroy civilization one brick at a time.

Quote: 1nickelmiracle

The problems are caused by things worse than socialism. In essence, people are holding onto the past and ignoring the present as it evolves into the future. Everyone these days has an incentive to destroy civilization one brick at a time.

No doubt your glass is half empty
Sorry you feel like that
I on the other hand am enjoying the present and looking forward to the future
It's a wonderful time to be living with all the incredible technology at our fingertips
Life is good

Quote: 1nickelmiracle

I'm really having a hard time keeping up with this theory and conversation. First, the socialist policies must be defined and not let to just continue being whatever anybody wants at the time. Second, it must be discussed how this has caused shortages and is the main reason.

To me the simple reason for shortages are the dynamics which make something unprofitable to produce. It is either the materials cannot be found, the labor cannot be found or either is too expensive, then could also be a distribution problem. It's probably just another thing which cannot be solved by our corrupt political system anyway and contributing factors which are unpleasant are probably being ignored.

Recent history is a good place to begin studying so I left the link below for you for insight.



One of the issues about capitalism that I can see, is the top 1%.

When we entered into the pandemic phase, central banks all over the world pumped fiat currency into our economic systems.

Just the USA's central bank pumped about $7T (way too much).

Congress was scared and they had no personal experience nor did the central bank.

Although, we did have a pandemic history 100 years earlier leading to The Great Depression.

The money indirectly flowed to the top 1% (stocks, real estate, etc).

It was redistributed from the USA Treasury account (tax payers) to the top 1% accounts by way of the control of assets.

It was the greatest transfer of wealth (heist?) in the history of the world.

And most of it went to the top 1%.

Plus, we are paying the interest on the money that went to the top 1%, so it's not over.

And the most interesting thing about the wealth transfer, is not too many are aware of it (the MSM hides it for obvious reasons).



That is why socialism is making progress.

But socialism is definitely not the answer.

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Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It
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Israel, India, and the United Kingdom all adopted socialism as an economic model following World War II. The preamble to India’s constitution, for example, begins, “We, the People of India, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a Sovereign Socialist Secular Democratic Republic . . .” The original settlers of Israel were East European Jews of the Left who sought and built a socialist society. As soon as the guns of World War II fell silent, Britain’s Labour Party nationalized every major industry and acceded to every socialist demand of the unions.

At first, socialism seemed to work in these vastly dissimilar countries. For the first two decades of its existence, Israel’s economy grew at an annual rate of more than 10 percent, leading many to term Israel an “economic miracle.” The average GDP growth rate of India from its founding in 1947 into the 1970s was 3.5 percent, placing India among the more prosperous developing nations. GDP growth in Great Britain averaged 3 percent from 1950 to 1965, along with a 40 percent rise in average real wages, enabling Britain to become one of the world’s more affluent countries.

But the government planners were unable to keep pace with increasing population and overseas competition. After decades of ever declining economic growth and ever rising unemployment, all three countries abandoned socialism and turned toward capitalism and the free market. The resulting prosperity in Israel, India, and the U.K. vindicated free-marketers who had predicted that socialism would inevitably fail to deliver the goods. As British prime minister Margaret Thatcher observed, “the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”
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https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/three-nations-tried-socialism-and-rejected-it

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Quote: DoubleGold

It was the greatest transfer of wealth (heist?) in the history of the world.

And most of it went to the top 1%.

The people who engineered this, know this happened, and are very angry about it. Now, most of us when faced with our disappointments, do try to succeed anyway, and these people are no different. So springing up among them are those who want to seize, to outright take, the assets of the wealthy, Elizabeth Warren among them this time [just to pick on one].

This is one thing that distinguishes Communism from Socialism, wanting to seize your assets. Not just transfer wealth, mind, but outright take property from you. You would think it would give the Senator Warrens of the country pause ... but evidently not. I don't think she is a Communist, but she can't hear herself talking like one.

This is why the rest of us really need to beware

Quote: odiousgambit

The people who engineered this, know this happened, and are very angry about it. Now, most of us when faced with our disappointments, do try to succeed anyway, and these people are no different. So springing up among them are those who want to seize, to outright take, the assets of the wealthy, Elizabeth Warren among them this time [just to pick on one].

This is one thing that distinguishes Communism from Socialism, wanting to seize your assets. Not just transfer wealth, mind, but outright take property from you. You would think it would give the Senator Warrens of the country pause ... but evidently not. I don't think she is a Communist, but she can't hear herself talking like one.

This is why the rest of us really need to beware

Absolutely
Look at how Desantis wants to control Disney
chilling
I'm for capitalism.
Desantis is for central planning

That's one reason I doubted if COVID was real and the following vaccinations.

It would make a great false-flag for a heist and legal also (a legal heist).

Much better than Bernie Maddoff could ever dream of.

And trillions and trillions of dollars, not billions.

In other words, Congress would have never authorized the flooding of the market with cash without it.

It leads me to other questions as well.

The conclusion is wrong about socialism. Countries don't abandon socialism; they eventually balance between socialist and capitalist system.

That's the reality.

And arguing some of something is good, more must be better is a suspect argument in many cases. Calories are good, but too many is obesity. Too few is starvation.

Quote: DoubleGold

That's one reason I doubted if COVID was real and the following vaccinations.

It would make a great false-flag for a heist and legal also (a legal heist).

Much better than Bernie Maddoff could ever dream of.

And trillions and trillions of dollars, not billions.

In other words, Congress would have never authorized the flooding of the market with cash without it.

It leads me to other questions as well.

Many of your posts like this one lead me to questions as well….

…about the failure of our country’s educational system.

Quote: odiousgambit

The people who engineered this, know this happened, and are very angry about it. Now, most of us when faced with our disappointments, do try to succeed anyway, and these people are no different. So springing up among them are those who want to seize, to outright take, the assets of the wealthy, Elizabeth Warren among them this time [just to pick on one].

This is one thing that distinguishes Communism from Socialism, wanting to seize your assets. Not just transfer wealth, mind, but outright take property from you. You would think it would give the Senator Warrens of the country pause ... but evidently not. I don't think she is a Communist, but she can't hear herself talking like one.

This is why the rest of us really need to beware

Something similar happened during the financial crisis.

They seem to try to scare Congress into authorizing funding.

It's all about the money.

So where did the money flow then?

Folks swore up and down they'd never let that happen again.


In regards to Elizabeth, there seems to be something missing.

But I can't place my finger on it.

Like she'll go after banks for overdraft fees or Wells Fargo for stealing out of client accounts, but won't say a word about the $7T?


And Maxine Waters.

What is she even doing on a finance committee?


We have foxes guarding the hen-house?