Getting real tired of Kamala Harris already.
April 28th, 2021 at 12:29:23 PM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
(Quote clipped, effect) You guys are in trouble, now!!! I've got a teammate! Wait, we hate groupthink... We're all in trouble now!!! "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
April 28th, 2021 at 12:32:48 PM permalink | |
missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 96 Posts: 3099 | I've voted Libertarian pretty much all my adult life. In college I met and talked at length with some high Libertarian mucky-muck and found value in what he said. If I had to choose I'd probably opt to vote Republican, but I don't hate the Democrats: I am basically fiscally conservative and socially moderate. |
April 28th, 2021 at 12:48:36 PM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
I'm more of your States-Rights brand of Libertarian. When you get past what level of Government should be doing what, I am fiscally moderate and socially very liberal. Here's where I end up on this one: https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=4.13&soc=-5.49 Economic Left/Right: Right 4.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: Libertarian -5.49 ISideWith is better, in my opinion. I don't feel like doing it again right this second, but here are my results from another thread last year: http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3246/0/
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
April 28th, 2021 at 1:43:29 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18751 | I could be libertarian, except I don't believe in encouraging post-behavior responsibility. For instance I see cigarette taxes as a good pre-behavior responsibility. Yeah, you have cancer and bad health, but collectively taxes help offset it. Whereas, gun crime? Pro gunners talk about freedom and nothing but post-behavior responsibility. If you commit gun crime there's no guarantee you have the resources to pay for all the damage you cause. And when you don't have it, everyone else must pay. People talk about their right to freedom. Would it be freedom if car rental companies had to let you rent a luxury car without knowing that you're covered up front by insurance or some other arrangement? No. And they would be stupid to do it. Getting you put in jail because you couldn't pay for something doesn't pay the bill to the rental company. So, as a solution, it's pretty poor, IMO. Too many people want to squeeze the poor and make sure they don't get any meager ill-gotten gains, but start screaming about freedom when, for instance it should be a requirement for health insurance and not just optional that they have enough coverage for what happens to them. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
April 28th, 2021 at 2:37:09 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18202 |
Freedom has nothing to do with a private transaction like a rental car. The President is a fink. |
April 28th, 2021 at 2:51:51 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18751 |
Translation, you can't offer any real argument. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
April 28th, 2021 at 2:53:32 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18202 |
It is a silly statement. Freedom comes from your creator and infringes on nobody else. Forcing a private person to rent a car to someone is not "freedom" it is the exact opposite. The President is a fink. |
April 28th, 2021 at 3:10:00 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18751 |
Most conservatives (and people in general) use way more government resources long before they ever pay for it. Have you paid 3 million in taxes yet in your whole lifetime? For instance,
Were you free to steal all the tax money to build that or not? You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
April 28th, 2021 at 3:41:26 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18202 |
I do not "steal" the road. I use my portion as do the cars before me and after me. As my money was stolen in the form of taxes I have no issues in using it. I am seriously though not at all following what you are asking. The President is a fink. |
April 28th, 2021 at 4:41:42 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18751 |
My original point is I’m not a libertarian, unless libertarian is one who believes risk can’t be mitigated by just an honor system. A conservative would say he is not free if he has a mandatory payment for health insurance. He wants us to think it is freedom to be on an honor system without knowing whether he could pay for himself being a quadriplegic for instance. No guaranteed payment is not freedom, but a con job, just like it would be if a rental car agency let you give just your word that you could pay for that luxury car if you wreck it. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |