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May 26th, 2021 at 9:49:34 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: missedhervee
Me, I have always maintained and serviced my own cars whenever possible, including a Ferrari I had for ten years.


Well, if you can afford a Ferrari and you still want to change your own oil it must mean you love cars. I think most people who spend more than $40K on a car would rather pay people to mess around with fluids (oil, coolant, transmission, brake).

It is possible the argument below justifying spending $100 for a coolant flush is just salesmanship, but it convinces me.

Quote: Service Center argument why you should not drain and refill your coolant yourself
While a drain and refill is fairly straight forward and generally not difficult, a flush is much more difficult. A drain and refill generally only includes draining the radiator and reservoir then refilling it with new fluid.

What exactly is a Coolant Flush? Here is what an actual flush entails
The best way to remove virtually all of your fluid is to have an Auto Service Center, hook your car up to a machine that removes it while putting the right amount of new fluid in. Your engine temperature is maintained by the flow of anti-freeze, more commonly referred to as coolant. A coolant flush pushes anti-freeze through your cooling system in order to do a complete cleanse by clearing out all of the old anti-freeze and any contaminants that may have built up. When you get a coolant flush, all of the old anti-freeze is evacuated from your system, ensuring that when we put new anti-freeze in, it won’t mix with the old. The machine will circulate the fluid through your vehicles cooling system a couple times which will remove any debris that might have built up over time. This is really the only good way to have this job done right. Lastly, conditioners are added in order to prevent rust and scale deposits, resulting in new longer-lasting anti-freeze If there is any debris in the cooling system (like if it has not been drained and refilled for 20 years!) then this is the only good way to get it out. Sometimes scale and other things will build up (especially if you use tap water to fill the radiator) and cause the radiator to become restricted. A flush will help to remove some, if not most, of this.
May 26th, 2021 at 9:59:05 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
I don't get how people can spend that much money on a car, and decide to change their own oil and flush the coolant , transmission, and brake fluids.


I knew a woman school teacher in the 90s who bought her first Cadillac convertible brand new. She did not do any of the scheduled maintenance until eventually oil light came on and she ignored it and the engine eventually seized. Her explanation was it was a Cadillac it was expensive and nothing was supposed to go wrong with it. And her ex-husband handled all the cars in their marriage, she did not have a clue
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May 27th, 2021 at 12:17:37 AM permalink
missedhervee
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My dad was the same way.

I suspect most people are that way also.

Life is ... choices.
May 27th, 2021 at 8:53:20 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: Pacomartin
Well, if you can afford a Ferrari and you still want to change your own oil it must mean you love cars. I think most people who spend more than $40K on a car would rather pay people to mess around with fluids (oil, coolant, transmission, brake).

It is possible the argument below justifying spending $100 for a coolant flush is just salesmanship, but it convinces me.

In any case the CARFAX should have a record of inspections and emissions checks. I fail to see why they were omitted from the report.


Probably love cars if you own a Ferrari, or love showing off.

"I don't know, these new Elantras have a bit too much pep for me."-Mission146
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May 28th, 2021 at 11:24:58 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Mission146
"I don't know, these new Elantras have a bit too much pep for me."-Mission146


Hyundai Elantra's engine is a 2.0-liter 4 cylinder with 147 hp and 132 lb-ft torque.
Hyundai Accent's engine is a 1.6-liter 4 cylinder with 120 hp and 113 lb-ft torque

Hyundai Veloster Turbo Ultimate DCT can get you to 60 mph in 6.0 seconds for less than $30K if you don't mind manual transmission,
May 29th, 2021 at 4:22:14 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: Pacomartin
Hyundai Elantra's engine is a 2.0-liter 4 cylinder with 147 hp and 132 lb-ft torque.
Hyundai Accent's engine is a 1.6-liter 4 cylinder with 120 hp and 113 lb-ft torque

Hyundai Veloster Turbo Ultimate DCT can get you to 60 mph in 6.0 seconds for less than $30K if you don't mind manual transmission,


The Accent is too small, even for me.
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May 29th, 2021 at 4:38:08 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Mission146


The Accent is too small, even for me.


You get used to it. I had a 2005, only car I have ever bought new. I learned to love that little car. Probably most value I have gotten out of any car I ever owned.
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May 29th, 2021 at 6:34:06 AM permalink
Mission146
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You get used to it. I had a 2005, only car I have ever bought new. I learned to love that little car. Probably most value I have gotten out of any car I ever owned.


I totally agree, but I am 6'3" and if there's a kid behind me, they need room for their legs.
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May 29th, 2021 at 6:38:50 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Mission146
I totally agree, but I am 6'3" and if there's a kid behind me, they need room for their legs.


That does make a difference. I doubt I had someone in the back seat 10 times over 9.5 years owning it. These days I do like a little more beefy car around me but I do say I loved that thing. One time a car was coming wrong way down the interstate I would have been dead in it, otherwise it was great.
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May 29th, 2021 at 8:43:06 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: Mission146
Probably love cars if you own a Ferrari, or love showing off. "I don't know, these new Elantras have a bit too much pep for me."-Mission146


I had one for ten years: never again.

Deliberately bought a GT in a dark color as I am not flashy and do not seek the attention of others: just wanted a "cool car" that would be interesting to work on and fun to drive.

I quickly discovered that the car had many issues and was too hard to work on for a shade tree mechanic like me.

Parts made of unobtanium and hideously available.

In disgust I shipped it to a specialist out of state to be sorted out.

Pretty looking GT but quite unreliable; in the end the costs of repair / maintenance equaled the purchase price.

A great piece of automotive sculpture and fun to drive, but not worth the cost, fuss and bother.
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