Biden's Biggest Blunder

Quote: AZDuffman

People do not realize how few we have lost in war comparatively. In WWII the USA lost 1% of all lives lost to the war. But if we are going to war we need to do it for our own good. To take and keep an area. Annexation.

America has been pretty luck, we rarely get attacked. (Setting aside the Civil War) Pretty much just: 1812, *Spanish American War* (possibly was not an actual attack, may have been a malfunction that actually caused the ship to blow), WWII (Pear Harbor), and 9/11.

For many of the wars that envelope Asia and Europe, America either does not get involved or gets involved on its own terms (often towards the end of the war). But, very rarely are we ever truly on the defensive, WWII may be the exception, and even that was not actually our main land (Pacific Outposts).

Quote: Gandler

America has been pretty luck, we rarely get attacked. (Setting aside the Civil War) Pretty much just: 1812, *Spanish American War* (possibly was not an actual attack, may have been a malfunction that actually caused the ship to blow), WWII (Pear Harbor), and 9/11.

For many of the wars that envelope Asia and Europe, America either does not get involved or gets involved on its own terms (often towards the end of the war). But, very rarely are we ever truly on the defensive, WWII may be the exception, and even that was not actually our main land (Pacific Outposts).

You forgot the War of Mexican Aggression but a good point. Since 1815 every USA war perhaps except Japan attacking has been to push out the perimeter we need to concern ourselves with, since WWII we are pushed out to Japan in the west, the north pole in the north, Europe in the east, and almost the south pole in the south. No enemy can realistically stage an attack from closer than these points.

In July dementia joe bidumb said the Taliban 'overrunning everything' was 'highly unlikely'.

How is that working out joe?



The Taliban has probably taken over more area since the August graphic was made.

Reminds me of the following quotes:

Robert Gates, Obama defense secretary quote about dementia joe bidumb: “I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."

Obama quote about dementia joe bidumb: "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up.”

Electricity cut off and reports say no ATM's are working. Taliban reported just 30 miles from Kabul.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/202108131083599222-taliban-reported-to-be-just-50-km-outside-kabul-as-besieged-city-faces-power-outages/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/taliban-seize-kandahar-prepare-to-march-on-kabul-11628846975

Yeah its absurd that both Trump and Biden took the Taliban at their word that they would not retake the country.

It looks like it is already a done deal. The U.S. does not even seem to be attempting to keep the embassy (at this point the only mission seems to be evacuate).

I just watched this on CNN.com, which was surprisingly good, they gave a CNN anchor access to their base:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/08/13/taliban-former-us-military-base-afghanistan-ghazni-province-ward-dnt-lead-vpx.cnn

I like that she highlights the issue of women's rights and shows the instant contrast in Taliban controlled land (which now for all intents and purposes may as well be the whole country again), even the media are not shying away from saying they will be running the country within weeks (and basically are already).

Pepe Escobar has covered the area for many years. https://asiatimes.com/2021/08/a-saigon-moment-looms-in-kabul/

Another war lost by the country that hasn't won a war in 75 years.

Pulling our troops out of that country was an act of mercy. Those sixth century desert nomads have been kicking their asses for the past twenty years.

Thousands more would have been slaughtered, had the US not been paying the Taliban not to attack them during those years.

The brother of someone who worked for the Federal agency that helps foreign nations increase their crop yields, told me he his brother was involved in negotiations with the Taliban, where the then president Karzai, acting as the middle man received millions from the U.S., to pay the Taliban not to conduct attacks.

While he was there, he helped increase wheat crop yields 500%. The 'ushr' tax on crops is a major source of income for the Taliban.

Quote: Tanko

Another war lost by the country that hasn't won a war in 75 years.

The Gulf War was 75 years ago?

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Pulling our troops out of that country was an act of mercy. Those sixth century desert nomads have been kicking their asses for the past twenty years.

Thousands more would have been slaughtered, had the US not been paying the Taliban not to attack them during those years.

America does not have the stomach to do what needed to be done to defeat the Taliban. 2000s USA does not have the stomach for what it took to win WWII. Enemy must be killed. Enemy must be attacked until they completely beg for mercy. Talking firebombing whole cities, inflicting tens of thousands of casualties. And you have to think of your enemy as Krauts and Japs, not as some misguided group that "are people too!" You have to consider them sub-human that you are doing a favor by killing them.

We had that in WWII, we have not had it since. When you use guided weapons to destroy property but kill as few people as possible you leave the people mad as hell at you, they consider *you* subhuman. They do what it takes to destroy you.

The opening speech of "Patton" says it all. We just wanted the Taliban to lay down their arms. To win we needed to want to use their guts to grease the treads of our tanks.

At least we are pulling out!

Quote: AZDuffman

The Gulf War was 75 years ago?

We overthrew the Saddam regime and now Iran dominates the country. That really worked out well, as always. Put in in the loss column.

Quote: Tanko

We overthrew the Saddam regime and now Iran dominates the country. That really worked out well, as always. Put in in the loss column.

The Gulf War

We ejected Iraq from Kuwait clean as a whistle.

As to the Iraq war, we won the war but did not have the stomach for the occupation. Same as I said in the post above.