Debt Ceiling Brinkmanship

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October 4th, 2021 at 7:46:26 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: OnceDear
we won't squabble. If the headlines scream US defaults on debt or similar, and we can clearly see something beyond the usual exceptional measures, it will be clear. If we don't see that clearly then I'll concede. There's always a chance we will call it a tie by mutual consent.


We have a bet! No more talking about the particulars, except I'll say I'm agreeable to use SOOPOO as an arbitrator if we can't resolve it ourselves. Full disclosure -- I consider myself a friend of SOOPOO in real life, but I am confident he will will not let any favoritism cloud his judgement.
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October 4th, 2021 at 8:32:33 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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I am willing to arbitrate this massive bet!

I think the Dems will somehow prevent the Default. I like the trillion dollar coin ploy.


Last time they did that Mr. Burns stole it.
The President is a fink.
October 4th, 2021 at 10:10:59 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: Wizard
We have a bet! No more talking about the particulars, except I'll say I'm agreeable to use SOOPOO as an arbitrator if we can't resolve it ourselves. Full disclosure -- I consider myself a friend of SOOPOO in real life, but I am confident he will will not let any favoritism cloud his judgement.
All good. I expect to lose, but only because these things tend to get fudged and kicked down the road with 'exceptional measures'. I wonder what NEW exceptional measures we will get this time? The Platinum coin would be a fun way to lose.
October 4th, 2021 at 11:37:49 AM permalink
Evenbob
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The libs pulled this crap with Obamacare and they thought they could do it again. Americans on both sides of the aisle are not so easily fooled this time.

"Nearly 72 percent of general election voters oppose raising taxes
and the national debt, which would result from President Joe Biden’s
$3.5 trillion reconciliation package, a Trafalgar Group poll revealed Monday.'
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 4th, 2021 at 12:18:58 PM permalink
JCW09
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Just hilarious to see the Dems over the weekend scream they need GOP votes to avoid a debt default.
When clearly through the reconciliation mechanics/process they don't a single GOP vote.
The GOP can't stop the reconciliation process that would pass the $3.5T bill with 50 Dem Senators & a House majority.
Nor can they stop the Dems raising the the debt ceiling limit in a similar manner. Hello Dems, you're in control!!

Why do the Dems think Americans are that stupid. All they need is 50 Dem Senators to pass Biden's agenda, not a single GOP vote.
But somehow they are trying to sell that they can't raise the debt ceiling to pay for it all without a GOP vote, laughable.
They'll get Sinema & Manchin to vote for the debt ceiling raise before the deadline,
But not sure those two vote for even a $2T Socialist Agenda Bill at this point.
Not after The House Plant sided with the Progressives to link the passage of the two the bills over the weekend.
The moderates in The House are now pissed as well, Manchin & Sinema getting some love from some Dem House Reps
Newsflash Progressives: You don't have the votes because not every Dem is a Socialist!! Just the loudest Dems are Socialists.

If OD wins his bet, the Dems will be held responsible for the default because they could have avoided it all by themselves.
So they won't default, they'll argue it's a joint responsibility and call the GOP names like disgraceful & hypocritical.
Ahh, #FJB, no one cares what you say anymore, once you unnecessarily killed soldiers & opened up the border, well #FJB!!
Then 50 Senators & slim House majority will up the debt ceiling by themselves & we'll all wonder why they didn't do this weeks ago?
It's kinda like linking two bills together that have nothing to do with one another, not a great look.
Dems will be Dems, what are you going to do? LMAO
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October 4th, 2021 at 12:48:45 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: JCW09


Why do the Dems think Americans are that stupid.


Because the Democrat base really is that stupid. They believe taxes will only go up on "the rich." They believe whatever PMSNBC tells them. They thought Biden was going to take the china virus seriously and it would be over by now. They beg for their freedom and money to be taken away if a Democrat says there is a "crisis" in anything.

But we need them, I need my table bussed before I get there and like a clean men's room.
The President is a fink.
October 4th, 2021 at 12:55:38 PM permalink
ams288
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October 4th, 2021 at 3:27:52 PM permalink
Evenbob
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They thought Biden was going to take the china virus seriously and it would be over by now. .


Barry Obama: if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.
Beijing Joe: I have a plan for getting rid of covid-19.

Of course they both admitted later they were lying through their teeth. Like anybody was surprised.

Beijing Joe: Why doesn't he just lead? C'mon man,
why doesn't Trump just lead us?

LOL
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 4th, 2021 at 6:23:18 PM permalink
JCW09
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C'Mon Man, you missed The House Plant's best one yet.
"The cost number on the Build Back Better Bill is zero"
That and no one got left behind in Afghanistan either, right Joe?
And the border isn't a crisis and we can take our masks off and gather as families for July 4th BBQ's
For Christ sake, Fauchi now says Christmas is in jeopardy for family gatherings.
Remember 15 Days to flatten the curve, yeah, neither do I.
These F'ing people, anyone that wants to give them more money and more power is insane!
Def. of Liar - "A Person Who Tells Lies" / "I lied. Deal with it" - ams288
October 4th, 2021 at 7:09:22 PM permalink
terapined
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C'Mon Man, you missed The House Plant's best one yet.

Aren't you amazed a plant beat Trump
I truly believe Mickey Mouse could have beat Trump
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
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