Pondering the Historical Jesus

when I was growing up, there were a lot of members of the "Church of Jesus Christ", a Protestant denomination [not Mormon]. The kids could be, and were often, my friends, but they were obligated to tell you that you were going to Hell if you didn't belong to that church. Said it said so in the Bible. A lot of religious entities have this kind of thinking, of course, but it was unusual to hear such a thing if they were Protestants.

what's the thing with the calendar?

Quote: odiousgambit

when I was growing up, there were a lot of members of the "Church of Jesus Christ", a Protestant denomination [not Mormon]. The kids could be, and were often, my friends, but they were obligated to tell you that you were going to Hell if you didn't belong to that church. Said it said so in the Bible. A lot of religious entities have this kind of thinking, of course, but it was unusual to hear such a thing if they were Protestants.

what's the thing with the calendar?

That's a good example of a denomination.

Groups of elders disagreed and split a church up and the congregation chose which way to go.

But the Body of Christ Church cannot be split up.

Also, there is no monopoly of denomination.

So many denominations can make up the Body of Christ.

For many years, the Catholic church dominated, and their system is best fit to process the magnitudes.



The calendar change represented a new force of belief.

Both politically and those citizens that chose to follow Jesus' teachings.

It was a force to be reckoned with.

Not many humans could cause a calendar change other than Jesus.

But Jesus was also divine.

They had no other way to explain how a full human could do such things.



The Holy Bible is one way to access the Holy Spirit.

But it's only temporary for those not Body of Christ members.

An interpretation therefore becomes important.

The very same text can be interpreted a 1000 different ways.

So the idea is to use the Holy Spirit to interpret the text and place it in our mind.

A normal human mind can interpret some of the spiritual concepts but not all.

Quote: DoubleGold

That's a good example of a denomination.

Groups of elders disagreed and split a church up and the congregation chose which way to go.

But the Body of Christ Church cannot be split up.

Also, there is no monopoly of denomination.

So many denominations can make up the Body of Christ.

For many years, the Catholic church dominated, and their system is best fit to process the magnitudes.



The calendar change represented a new force of belief.

Both politically and those citizens that chose to follow Jesus' teachings.

It was a force to be reckoned with.

Not many humans could cause a calendar change other than Jesus.

But Jesus was also divine.

They had no other way to explain how a full human could do such things.



The Holy Bible is one way to access the Holy Spirit.

But it's only temporary for those not Body of Christ members.

An interpretation therefore becomes important.

The very same text can be interpreted a 1000 different ways.

So the idea is to use the Holy Spirit to interpret the text and place it in our mind.

A normal human mind can interpret some of the spiritual concepts but not all.

I'll gently say there's much to absorb here.

I still don't get it about the calendar change. Are you talking about the decision for when to make Year One?

Yes, I agree.

I could create a new Body of Christ thread, but I created a thread once and received no replies.

But you could create a thread and I'll participate.



In regards to the calendar, yes.

Time became recorded as Before Christ (BC) and After Death (AD).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

But recently there were some non-Christians that became offended so the different letters represent different words now.

"Jesus is said to have no earthly father as well. So to be a descendant of David makes no sense, except, it seems that it had to be or no dice. So the early church kind of stumbled into this I think."


odiousgambit, yes, that was a stumbling block until they discovered Mary was out of Judah.



The ancients knew the Messiah would come out of one of their virgins.

So they protected the mtDNA (the blood line).

Some to this very day claim misogyny.

The blood line was the most important at the time.

So they had to protect the young women.

The way they did it is to cross breed with cousins.

The other cousin line was the ruling line (DNA-Y).



We still protect women today but it is not required since the Messiah has already arrived.

One example is changing a woman's last name after marriage so a woman can't be traced.

Another is placing the male's last name on a postal mail box and hiding the woman's maternal surname.

That's why law enforcement and government will always ask for a maternal surname.

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I'm interested in his DNA.

Very good post.

Did Jesus have 23 or 46 chromosomes in each cell?


We'll likely never know because He resurrected.

In other words, there is no physical evidence of His DNA to my knowledge.

Although, it's possible someone could locate His DNA.


I'd focus on providing DNA evidence of a patriarch out of Heber (Hebrew).

There should be a tomb of a patriarch with DNA evidence available.

If there is, and it's not published, why not?

What could they be hiding?

Quote: DoubleGold

Yes, I agree.

I could create a new Body of Christ thread, but I created a thread once and received no replies.

But you could create a thread and I'll participate.



In regards to the calendar, yes.

Time became recorded as Before Christ (BC) and After Death (AD).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

But recently there were some non-Christians that became offended so the different letters represent different words now.

OK.

common mistake there, that would put about 30 years in neither era. AD stands for Anno Domini, Latin for “in the year of the Lord”. BC means as you say. Now it's common era and before common era, CE and BCE, in just about everywhere, but we can still use AD and BC, and I do , and everybody gets it

the Body of Christ dogma, what denomination is that associated with?

Quote: odiousgambit

the Body of Christ dogma, what denomination is that associated with?

If you're interested in the concept, I'd begin with the Holy Bible references, then progress.

If you find anything in the Holy Bible that doesn't agree with what I wrote, let me know.

Quote: odiousgambit

OK.

common mistake there, that would put about 30 years in neither era. AD stands for Anno Domini, Latin for “in the year of the Lord”. BC means as you say. Now it's common era and before common era, CE and BCE, in just about everywhere, but we can still use AD and BC, and I do , and everybody gets it

Back then the Magi used astrology often but the scholars (the ones that changed the calendar) didn't know the exact birth date of Jesus.

So I believe the Star of Bethlehem, used by the Magi to locate Jesus, was the Star of David shape with planets making a configuration.

The reason is so Herod couldn't locate Jesus but the Magi could.

The Star was likely a figurative Star, in the shape of the Star of David, formed by planetary locations, based upon a specific location on Earth.

I don't think Herod had those planetary locations and he was likely looking for a normal star or one rising from the east.

Magen David is the name of it.

Another term used was the Seal of Solomon.