Gas Guzzler Tax

January 25th, 2022 at 9:44:47 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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The idea behind this thread is that a carbon tax is increasingly used around the world. Often it is a large percentage of vehicle sales and then an annual tax which could last for three years up to the active life a vehicle.

Many people feel like a carbon tax in the US is inevitable. In order to head off a worse tax, the idea would be to broaden the applicability of the existing Gas Guzzler tax from just cars to pickups and SUVs. The Gas Guzzler tax is currently only applies to "cars" and usually only very expensive cars manufactured by luxury brands from Europe. They all have 8,10,12,and 16 cylinders, except for a handful of 6 cylinder Porsches. Very few domestic modes are affected except some Cadillacs, or high end Camaros or Ford GT that produce over 500 hp.

Subaru Tecnica International which is sold as a very small number of cars found themselves requiring a $1000 gas guzzler tax in 2019. Rather than make the customers pay it, the company absorbed the tax until they could redesign to make it slightly more fuel efficient the next year.

It is possible to design a Pickup, even a powerful one, to be more fuel efficient. Toyota redesigned their larger Tundra pickup from a 5.7 liter V8 to twin 3.4 liter V6 with a hybrid coming this spring.

Since I am assuming most people are against the idea of a carbon tax, keep in mind that I think one is inevitable. The expanded Gas Guzzler tax is a way to take the steam out of more aggressive proposals.

Here is a list of pickups and SUVs that would be affected by a broadening of the gas guzzler tax. Only a handful would have to pay more than $2100.
The ranking is from best to worst for pickups than for SUVs. Most of the models affected are Standard size and all wheel drive, but there are exceptions.

A Lamborghini URUS sport utility vehicle is over $200K so I doubt the buyer cares about a tax. But the first pickup on the list has an MSRP from $42,600 and would have to pay a $1000 gas guzzler tax as the vehicle just barely squeeks over the limitation.

Small 4WD 3.6 6 CHEVROLET COLORADO ZR2 4WD - From $42,600
Standard 2WD 5.7 8 RAM 1500 4X2
Standard 2WD 5.3 8 GMC SIERRA 2WD
Standard 2WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 2WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD
Standard 2WD 5.7 8 RAM 1500 Classic 4X2
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 RAM 1500 4X4
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 RAM 1500 Classic 4X4
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD
Standard 4WD 3.5 6 FORD F150 RAPTOR 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 3.5 6 FORD F150 RAPTOR 37 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 3.5 6 FORD F150 RAPTOR 4WD
Standard 4WD 3.5 6 FORD F150 RAPTOR 37 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 GMC SIERRA 4WD MUD TERRAIN TIRES
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 RAM 1500 TRX 4x4

Standard 4WD 5.3 8 Chevrolet TAHOE 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 Gmc YUKON 4WD
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Porsche CAYENNE GTS COUPE
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 Jeep WAGONEER 4X4
Standard 4WD 4.4 8 Bmw ALPINA XB7
Standard 4WD 4.4 8 Bmw X7 M50I
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Bentley BENTAYGA
Small 4WD 3.0 6 Bmw X3 M
Small 4WD 3.0 6 Bmw X3 M COMPETITION
Small 4WD 3.0 6 Bmw X4 M
Small 4WD 3.0 6 Bmw X4 M COMPETITION
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Audi SQ7
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Audi SQ8
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet SUBURBAN 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet TAHOE 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON XL 2WD
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Porsche CAYENNE TURBO
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Porsche CAYENNE TURBO COUPÉ
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 Dodge DURANGO AWD
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE 4X4
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE L 4X4
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Cadillac ESCALADE 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Cadillac ESCALADE 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet SUBURBAN 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet TAHOE 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON 2WD
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Porsche CAYENNE GTS
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Porsche CAYENNE TURBO GT COUPE
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 Chevrolet SUBURBAN 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.3 8 Gmc YUKON XL 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.0 8 Land Rover DEFENDER 90
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Cadillac ESCALADE 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet SUBURBAN 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet TAHOE 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON XL 4WD
Standard 2WD 5.6 8 Nissan ARMADA 2WD
Standard 4WD 5.0 8 Land Rover RANGE ROVER SPORT SVR
Standard 4WD 4.6 8 Lexus GX 460
Standard 2WD 5.6 8 Infiniti QX80 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON XL 2WD
Standard 4WD 5.6 8 Nissan ARMADA 4WD
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Aston Martin Lagonda Ltd DBX V8
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Cadillac ESCALADE 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet SUBURBAN 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Chevrolet TAHOE 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON 4WD
Standard 4WD 6.2 8 Gmc YUKON XL 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.0 8 Land Rover DEFENDER 110
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Audi RS Q8
Standard 4WD 5.6 8 Infiniti QX80 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.6 8 Nissan ARMADA 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.0 8 Land Rover RANGE ROVER SVA
Standard 4WD 3.8 8 Maserati LEVANTE MODENA V8
Standard 4WD 3.8 8 Maserati LEVANTE TROFEO
Standard 4WD 5.6 8 Infiniti QX80 4WD
Standard 4WD 5.0 8 Land Rover RANGE ROVER LWB SVA
Standard 4WD 4.4 8 Bmw X5 M
Standard 4WD 4.4 8 Bmw X5 M COMPETITION
Standard 4WD 4.4 8 Bmw X6 M
Standard 4WD 4.4 8 Bmw X6 M COMPETITION
Standard 2WD 5.7 8 Toyota SEQUOIA 2WD
Standard 2WD 6.4 8 Jeep GRAND WAGONEER 4X2
Standard 4WD 6.4 8 Jeep GRAND WAGONEER 4X4
Standard 4WD 6.0 12 Bentley BENTAYGA SPEED
Standard 4WD 5.7 8 Toyota SEQUOIA 4WD
Small 4WD 6.4 8 Jeep WRANGLER 4DR 4X4
Standard 4WD 4.0 8 Lamborghini URUS
January 25th, 2022 at 11:19:45 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I should add a list of vehicles who will pay the Gas Guzzler tax in 2022. I think the Ford GT (5.2-liter V-8 with755 hp) has not been included in the 2022 numbers yet

liters #Cyl Division Carline Class Desc
6.2 8 Cadillac CT5 V Midsize Cars -- 668 hp
6.2 8 Chevrolet CAMARO Subcompact Cars -- 455 hp
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Ghost Large Cars
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Ghost Black Badge Large Cars
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Ghost Extended Large Cars
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Cullinan Midsize Station Wagons
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Cullinan Black Badge Midsize Station Wagons
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Phantom Large Cars
6.7 12 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited Phantom Extended Large Cars
5.2 12 Aston Martin Lagonda Ltd DB11 V12 Minicompact Cars
5.2 12 Aston Martin Lagonda Ltd DBS Minicompact Cars6.2 8 Chevrolet CAMARO Subcompact Cars
5.2 10 Audi R8 Coupe Two Seaters
5.2 10 Audi R8 Spyder Two Seaters
5.2 10 Audi R8 Coupe RWD Two Seaters
5.2 10 Audi R8 Spyder RWD Two Seaters
4.0 8 Audi S8 Large Cars
6.0 12 Bentley Continental GT Speed Convertible Minicompact Cars
6.0 12 Bentley Continental GT Speed Subcompact Cars
6.0 12 Bentley Flying Spur Midsize Cars
4.0 8 Bentley Flying Spur Midsize Cars
6.6 12 BMW M760i xDrive Sedan Large Cars
4.4 8 BMW M5 Competition Sedan Midsize Cars
4.4 8 BMW M5 Sedan Midsize Cars
4.4 8 BMW M8 Competition Convertible Subcompact Cars
4.4 8 BMW M8 Competition Coupe Subcompact Cars
4.4 8 BMW M5 CS Sedan Midsize Cars
4.4 8 BMW M8 Competition Gran Coupe Midsize Cars
8.0 16 Bugatti Chiron Pur Sport Two Seaters
8.0 16 Bugatti Chiron Super Sport Two Seaters
8.0 16 Bugatti Chiron Two Seaters
6.5 12 Lamborghini Aventador Coupe Two Seaters
5.2 10 Lamborghini Huracan Coupe Two Seaters
5.2 10 Lamborghini Huracan Coupe RWD Two Seaters
5.2 10 Lamborghini Huracan Spyder Two Seaters
5.2 10 Lamborghini Huracan Spyder RWD Two Seaters
6.5 12 Ferrari North America, Inc. 812 GTS Two Seaters
6.5 12 Ferrari North America, Inc. 812 Competizione Two Seaters
3.9 8 Ferrari North America, Inc. F8 Spider Two Seaters
3.9 8 Ferrari North America, Inc. F8 Tributo Two Seaters
4.0 6 Porsche 911 GT3 Two Seaters
4.0 6 Porsche 911 GT3 Touring Two Seaters
3.7 6 Porsche 911 Turbo Minicompact Cars
3.7 6 Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet Minicompact Cars
3.7 6 Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet Minicompact Cars
3.8 8 MASERATI GHIBLI TROFEO Midsize Cars
3.8 8 MASERATI QUATTROPORTE TROFEO Large Cars